HANSARD25-27
DEBATES AND PROCEEDINGS
Speaker: Honourable Danielle Barkhouse
Published by Order of the Legislature by Hansard Reporting Services and printed by the King's Printer.
Available on INTERNET at http://nslegislature.ca/legislative-business/hansard-debates/
First Session
FRIDAY, SEPTEMBER 26, 2025
TABLE OF CONTENTSPAGE
PRESENTING AND READING PETITIONS: |
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Gov't. (N.S.): Prospect Rd. Comm. Infrastructure - Provide |
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Gov't. (N.S.): Power Bill Cost - Lower |
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TABLING REPORTS, REGULATIONS AND OTHER PAPERS: |
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Article: C.H. - "Cutting Through the Red Tape" - Address |
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Prov. Nom. Prog. Backlog: 200 Applicant Emails - Explain |
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STATEMENTS BY MINISTERS: |
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Oliver, Sen. Donald: Death of - Tribute, |
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GOVERNMENT NOTICES OF MOTION: |
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No. 215, Prov. Hunting and Fishing: More Opp. - Best Wishes, |
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Hon. T. Houston » ( The Premier « » ) |
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Vote - Affirmative |
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No. 216, Hurricane Season: Citizen Preparedness - Recog., |
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Vote - Affirmative |
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No. 217, FANE: Acad. Heritage Contrib. - Thanks, |
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Vote - Affirmative |
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No. 218, FOIPOP: Right to Know Wk. (Sept. 23-29, 2025) - Recog., |
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Vote - Affirmative |
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INTRODUCTION OF BILLS: |
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No. 149, Powering the Offshore Act, |
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No. 150, Freedom of Information and Protection of Privacy Act, |
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No. 151, Sales Tax Act (amended), |
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No. 152, Income Tax Act (amended), |
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No. 153, Used Vehicle Sales, An Act Respecting, |
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No. 154, Rural Housing and Economic Data Accuracy Act, |
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No. 155, Yarmouth Golf and Country Club, The, An Act to Incorporate (amended), |
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STATEMENTS BY MEMBERS: |
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Autism Nova Scotia: Leadership - Celebrate, |
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Team Canada: Rugby World Final - Support, |
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White, John & Junie: 33rd Wedding Anniv. - Congrats., |
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Musa & Family Designs: Sudanese-owned Bus. - Recog., |
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Prospect Road Traffic Study: Community Advocates - Thank, |
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Smith, Nancy: Outstanding Community Serv. - Thank, |
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D. Timmins |
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CUPE Local 3912: Essential Workers' Value - Recog., |
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Daughter, Emily- Birthday Wishes, |
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Fitt, Art: N.S. Country Music Hall of Fame Induct. - Congrats., |
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D. MacGillivray |
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Fraser, Rosella: Retirement - Congrats., |
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McKenna, Elizabeth Iona: Death of - Tribute, |
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Truro Fire Dept.: George Jones Mem. Fire Station - Recog., |
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Canada Post Strike: Essential Serv. - Recog., |
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Chignecto Isthmus: Historic Sig. - Recog., |
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Royal Cdn. Legion Branch 70: 80th Anniv. - Congrats., |
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Dart. North Pride Party: Jay Aaron Roy - Best Wishes, |
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Alz. Soc. of N.S.: Amherst Support Group - Recog., |
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Big Moustache Barber Shop: Business Success - Congrats., |
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N.S. Nominee Prog.: Access Failure - Improve, |
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Son, Colin - Birthday Wishes, |
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ORAL QUESTIONS PUT BY MEMBERS TO MINISTERS: |
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No. 332, Prem.: $1.2 Billion Deficit - Explain, |
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No. 333, Prem.: Hfx. Water Infrastructure - Support, |
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No. 334, DMA: Halifax Water Infrastructure - Support, |
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No. 335, DHW: Family Doctors Needed - Provide, |
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No. 336, LSI: Prov. Nom. App. Expiration - Explain, |
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No. 337, DPW: Chignecto Isth.: Constr. Delay - Address, |
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No. 338, DHW: Lack of Registry Access - Explain, |
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No. 339, GAD - C.B. Senior Pub. Housing: Safety Concerns - Explain, |
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No. 340, RTA: Scotian Apart. Rent Concerns - Address, |
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No. 341, DPW - Prospect Rd. Traffic Study Findings - Release, |
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No. 342, LSI: OT Pay for Long Hours Worked - Provide, |
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No. 343, ECC - Coastal Protec. Act for Municipalities - Explain, |
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No. 344, EECD: Oxford Sch. Overcrowding - Fix, |
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No. 345, DPW: Chignecto Isthmus Infrastructure - Protect, |
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No. 346, LSI - Econ. Reg. Reform Workers Ignored - Explain, |
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No. 347, DOE - Ind. Carbon Tax: Ratepayers - Protect, |
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No. 348, EECD - School Lunch Prog.: Celiac Students Exclusion - Explain, |
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GOVERNMENT BUSINESS: |
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PUBLIC BILLS AND ORDERS: |
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PUBLIC BILLS FOR SECOND READING: |
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No. 141, Municipal Modernization (2025) Act, |
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Vote - Affirmative |
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No. 144, Workers' Compensation Act (amended), |
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Vote - Affirmative |
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ADJOURNMENT, House rose to meet again on Mon., Sept. 29th at 4:00 p.m |
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NOTICES OF MOTION UNDER RULE 32(3): |
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No. 219, Housing Crisis - Tenant Affordability - Protect, |
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No. 220, Mi'kmaq Rights: Nat. Res. Projects - Consult, |
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HALIFAX, FRIDAY, SEPTEMBER 26, 2025
Sixty-fifth General Assembly
First Session
9:00 A.M.
SPEAKER
Hon. Danielle Barkhouse
DEPUTY SPEAKERS
John White, Marco MacLeod, Tom Taggart
THE SPEAKER » : Would all members please rise for the playing of the national anthem. I ask all members of the gallery, if able, to rise as well.
[The national anthem was played.]
You may be seated.
Order. We will begin the daily routine.
PRESENTING AND READING PETITIONS
THE SPEAKER « » : The honourable member for Timberlea-Prospect.
HON. IAIN RANKIN « » : Before I do that, may I make an introduction?
THE SPEAKER « » : Please do.
IAIN RANKIN « » : In the gallery opposite, there's a number of outstanding advocates, residents along the Prospect Road community. I'll name them, and then they can stand and receive the warm welcome of the House.
First, we'll start with my constituency coordinator, I guess we can say now, Raissa Musial, if you could rise. We have Wayne Paddock; we have Dana Giles, Donna Pettipas, and Michael Lamplugh.
These are some of the most outstanding constituents, who have been working really hard on behalf of the Prospect Road communities to try to get some more upgrades to the road in and out. If you could just give them a round of applause of the House. (Applause)
THE SPEAKER « » : Welcome to the House. We hope you enjoy your time here.
The honourable member for Timberlea-Prospect.
HON. IAIN RANKIN « » : I beg leave to table a petition from residents of the Prospect communities, the operative clause of which reads:
We the undersigned residents of the Prospect communities urgently call upon the Minister of Public Works to address the critical need for additional infrastructure, allocate capital funding, and implement the recommendations of the traffic study to incorporate a new exit from Prospect Road to Highway No. 103 to protect the safety and well-being of Prospect Road residents.
There are approximately 2,073 signatures on the petition. I have affixed my signature to the petition, as required by Rule 63(5) of the House.
THE SPEAKER « » : The petition is tabled.
The honourable member for Sackville-Cobequid.
PAUL WOZNEY « » : I beg leave to introduce a petition, the operative clause of which reads:
Whereas since the government was elected, Nova Scotians' power bills have increased by more than $400 per year; and
Whereas the power company has applied for an 8 percent rate increase over two years, just months after their massive data breach saw the sensitive personal information of customers, including social insurance numbers, compromised; and
Whereas the government needs to protect people's private information and help lower soaring power costs;
Therefore we the undersigned call on the Nova Scotia Government to pass legislation that will lower people's power costs and protect people's private information.
There are 14 signatures affixed, and I have affixed my own signature, as per the Rules of the House.
THE SPEAKER « » : The petition is tabled.
PRESENTING REPORTS OF COMMITTEES
TABLING REPORTS, REGULATIONS AND OTHER PAPERS
THE SPEAKER « » : The honourable Minister of Environment and Climate Change.
HON. TIMOTHY HALMAN « » : Speaker, I beg leave to table an article in my capacity as Minister of Service Efficiency, from the Chronicle Herald by Glenn MacDonald dated September 25, 2025: "Cutting through the red tape: What Nova Scotia's Making Business Easier Act aims to achieve."
THE SPEAKER « » : The report is tabled.
The honourable member for Fairview-Clayton Park.
LINA HAMID « » : Speaker, I beg leave to table 200 emails from residents of Nova Scotia stuck in the backlog of the Nova Scotia Nominee Program.
THE SPEAKER « » : The papers are tabled.
STATEMENTS BY MINISTERS
THE SPEAKER « » : The honourable Minister of African Nova Scotian Affairs.
OLIVER, SEN. DONALD: DEATH OF - TRIBUTE
HON. TWILA GROSSE « » : Speaker, I rise with sorrow and with a heavy heart to mark the passing of The Honourable Donald H. Oliver, KC, a son of Nova Scotia whose life stretched far beyond its shores.
As the first African Nova Scotian man in the Senate of Canada, he carried the weight of our history into that Chamber. He carried our voices, our struggles, and our triumphs, and he carried them with dignity, with courage, and with unyielding grace. Yet before the titles and before the marble halls, he was already shaping community and already building what could last. He helped give us the Black Cultural Centre, a place where the stories of African Nova Scotians are preserved so that our children may know who they are and where they came from.
Senator Oliver's life reminds us of something essential: the well-being of Nova Scotia cannot be cut away from the well-being of African Nova Scotians nor from the people of African descent who have contributed to the strength and beauty of this province. Senator Oliver's leadership opened doors, his mentorship created paths, and his vision still lights the road ahead.
As Minister of African Nova Scotian Affairs, I say to our communities: Senator Oliver's legacy is alive in us. To honour him is to honour each other. To remember him is to stand as he stood: steadfast in justice, generous in compassion, and certain that none of us can rise unless we rise together.
The truth remains; the future of this province will only be strong if we choose to work as one. On behalf of African Nova Scotian Affairs and the Government of Nova Scotia, I offer our deepest condolences to Senator Oliver's family, his friends, and all who were shaped by his vision. May his example command us to keep building the world he knew was possible.
After any response, I would ask that we stand for a moment of silence.
THE SPEAKER « » : The honourable member for Halifax Needham.
SUZY HANSEN « » : Earlier this week, one of our kings went on to glory: The Honourable Donald H. Oliver. He was a lawyer, educator, and retired senator. Senator Oliver was the first African Nova Scotian man appointed to the Canadian Senate, where he served with distinction for 23 years.
Throughout his years representing the people of Nova Scotia, he championed issues of human rights, equity, diversity, economic prosperity, and empowerment. Senator Oliver was a man of integrity and was known for his commitment to creating opportunities for others and always trying to break down barriers. A significant figure in the Nova Scotian social justice movement and a founding director of the Nova Scotia Black Cultural Centre, he was a key leader in the African Nova Scotian community.
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Senator Oliver said his greatest desire was to see a more tolerant Canada, where the concept of equality is first and tolerance and acceptance are all part of the fabric of Canada. His contribution to public service, law, and equity in Canada are immeasurable.
Let us honour his legacy of possibility, progress, and hope for the Black community and for all Canadians. His life stands as a testament that change is not only necessary but possible when guided by conviction and justice.
Together with all members of this House, I extend condolences to his family, his close friends, and all who were touched and inspired by his extraordinary life. May he rest in power. (Applause)
THE SPEAKER « » : The honourable member for Timberlea-Prospect.
HON. IAIN RANKIN « » : It's a pleasure to rise again to speak about my friend and a friend of others in the House. Much has been said about the accomplishments of former Senator Don Oliver - an outstanding legal career of integrity - and all that he did to pave the way for future Nova Scotians and Canadians.
I want to add the human element. He was a decent human being and a family man. He was adored by his family. I was lucky to know and grow up with some of his nieces and nephews and then got to know him before I entered politics and was able to engage with him on equity issues and issues around forestry, which he was passionate about, as well.
In this day and age of politics, where sometimes it can seem mean-spirited, he serves as a great example of what politics can be: working together across party lines and working in true collaboration. He was a true gentleman and what the definition of a statesperson is.
For that, I'm happy to add a few more words. What defined Don Oliver was that - and all of us should consider - it's not just what you do, it's how you treat people. He certainly was known as someone who treated people much as he would treat his own family and in politics, too. I saw him show up to Jim Cowan's ceremony when he retired from the Senate, for example. He had friends across the floor.
I just want to make sure that current politicians and aspiring politicians are aware that politics can be different. Senator Oliver exemplified that as much as anybody. (Applause)
THE SPEAKER « » : Please rise for a moment of silence.
[A moment of silence was observed.]
THE SPEAKER « » : You may be seated.
GOVERNMENT NOTICES OF MOTION
THE SPEAKER « » : The honourable Premier.
HON. TIM HOUSTON (The Premier) « » : Speaker, before I present my resolution, I beg leave to make an introduction.
THE SPEAKER « » : Please do.
THE PREMIER « » : Speaker, this morning in your gallery, we are joined by Peter White, vice-president of the Nova Scotia Federation of Anglers and Hunters. Mr. White has been a hunter, angler, and trapper for over 40 years. Welcome, Mr. White.
Also in your gallery, we have Sonya and Barry Landry, good friends of Nova Scotia; Steve Taylor; David Borden; Joel Carroll; Ed Fudge; Brandon Harvey; Jonathan MacKenzie; and young Evan MacKenzie. They're all hunting enthusiasts.
I am pleased to have these folks join us today as government announces changes to our hunting regulations that will provide more opportunities for Nova Scotians to hunt while keeping safety a priority and making it easier for families to hunt together.
I thank them for joining us, and I ask the House to offer them a warm welcome. (Applause)
THE SPEAKER « » : Welcome to the House. We hope you enjoy your time here.
The honourable Premier.
RESOLUTION NO. 215
THE PREMIER « » : Speaker, I hereby give notice that on a future day I shall move the adoption of the following resolution:
Whereas Nova Scotia is a beautiful province, rich in wildlife and natural resources that we are managing responsibly for the benefit of all Nova Scotians; and
Whereas our province enjoys a rich and historic tradition of hunting and fishing, not only as a sport and recreation but also as a sustainable sector providing food and jobs in rural Nova Scotia; and
Whereas our government is creating more opportunities for Nova Scotians to hunt and support wildlife management with an additional week to hunt deer - 11 more Sundays to hunt - and lowering the minimum age to hunt deer and bear so more young people can learn safety, skills, and wildlife stewardship while enjoying family time outdoors;
Therefore be it resolved that, with the general deer season soon getting under way, all members of this House join me in wishing Nova Scotians - over 35,000 hunters - a safe and successful season.
Speaker, I request waiver of notice and passage without debate.
THE SPEAKER « » : There has been a request for waiver.
Is it agreed?
It is agreed.
All those in favour? Contrary minded? Thank you.
The motion is carried.
The honourable Minister of Emergency Management.
RESOLUTION NO. 216
HON. KIM MASLAND « » : Speaker, I hereby give notice that on a future day I shall move the adoption of the following resolution:
Whereas hurricane season spans from June 1st to November 30th in Nova Scotia, with the potential for storms to cause flash flooding, damage homes and communities, and disrupt power grids and access to running water; and
Whereas residents should be prepared to be self-sufficient for at least 72 hours in case of a hurricane, including having a fully stocked emergency kit for your family members and pets, downloading the NS Alert app, and clearing and securing loose objects around the outside of your property; and
Whereas we have seen, even just in the last few years, how serious these storms can be, highlighting the fact that personal preparedness is everyone's responsibility, and it will make a difference should you ever find yourself in an emergency;
Therefore be it resolved that all members of this House recognize the importance of being prepared for hurricane season by creating a family emergency plan, downloading the NS Alert app, and having an emergency kit assembled, following the useful information found on the Department of Emergency Management's website.
Speaker, I request waiver of notice and passage without debate.
THE SPEAKER « » : There has been a request for waiver.
Is it agreed?
It is agreed.
All those in favour? Contrary minded? Thank you.
The motion is carried.
The honourable Minister of Acadian Affairs and Francophonie.
HON. COLTON LEBLANC « » : Before I begin my notice of motion, I beg leave to make a few introductions.
THE SPEAKER « » : Please do.
COLTON LEBLANC « » : Merci. In your gallery today, Speaker, we have a number of guests from the Acadian and francophone community I would like to introduce who are here today for part of l'Équipe Acadie.
We have Denise Comeau-Desautels, who is the chair/la présidente de la Fédération acadienne de la Nouvelle-Écosse; Vincent Anama, executive director/directeur général de l'Association des juristes d'expression française de la Nouvelle-Écosse; Lisette Aucoin-Bourgeois, executive director/directrice générale de la Société Saint-Pierre; Laurie Martin-Muranyi, directrice générale/executive director of the Conseil jeunesse provincial de la Nouvelle-Écosse; Atika Bayebane, présidente/chair of the Fédération des femmes acadiennes de la Nouvelle-Écosse and executive director/directrice générale du Centre communautaire Étoile de l'Acadie.
Thank you very much. Merci beaucoup de nous joindre aujourd'hui.
I ask them to rise to receive the warm welcome of the House. (Applause)
THE SPEAKER « » : Welcome to the House. We hope you enjoy your time here.
The honourable Minister of Acadian Affairs and Francophonie.
RESOLUTION NO. 217
HON. COLTON LEBLANC « » : Madame la présidente, à une date ultérieure je demanderai l'adoption de la résolution suivante :
Attendu que la Fédération acadienne de la Nouvelle-Écosse, la FANE, est un organisme à but non-lucratif fondé en 1968 et composé de 29 membres provinciaux, sectoriels, et régionaux qui représentent collectivement les priorités de la communauté acadienne et francophone de la Nouvelle-Écosse; et
Attendu que la FANE et ses organismes membres jouent un rôle essentiel dans la croissance et le développement continus de la communauté acadienne et francophone de la Nouvelle-Écosse grâce à des collaborations dans divers secteurs, notamment le développement culturel et linguistique en français; et
Attendu que la FANE a contribué au succès de la deuxième édition du Mois du patrimoine acadien, lancé à Chéticamp, mettant en valeur la force et la résilience du peuple acadien et des francophones ainsi que la nouvelle version de la Loi sur les services en français, modifiée l'année dernière;
Par conséquent, qu'il soit résolu que tous les membres de l'Assemblée législative se joignent à moi pour saluer et remercier la Fédération acadienne de la Nouvelle-Écosse et ses 29 organismes membres pour leur engagement en faveur de la préservation de la vitalité et du dynamisme des communautés acadiennes et francophones de la Nouvelle-Écosse.
Madame la Présidente, je demande l'adoption de cette résolution sans préavis et sans débat.
Speaker, I hereby give notice that on a future day I shall move the adoption of the following resolution:
Whereas the Fédération acadienne de la Nouvelle-Écosse, or FANE, is a non-profit organization founded in 1968 and is comprised of 29 provincial, sectoral, and regional organizations, who collectively represent the priorities of the Acadian and francophone community of Nova Scotia; and
Whereas FANE and its member organizations are key partners in ensuring the continued growth and development of the Acadian and francophone community through collaborations in various sectors, including cultural and French-language development; and
Whereas FANE contributed to the success of the second annual Acadian Heritage Month, launched in Chéticamp, showcasing the strength and resilience of Acadians and francophones, as well as strengthening the revised French-language Services Act, amended last year;
Therefore be it resolved that all members of the House of Assembly join me in acknowledging and thanking la Fédération acadienne de la Nouvelle-Écosse and its 29 member organizations for their commitment towards preserving the vitality and dynamism of Nova Scotia's Acadian and francophone communities.
Speaker, I request waiver of notice and passage without debate.
THE SPEAKER « » : There has been a request for waiver.
Is it agreed?
It is agreed.
All those in favour? Contrary minded? Thank you.
The motion is carried.
The honourable Minister of Service Nova Scotia.
RESOLUTION NO. 218
HON. JILL BALSER « » : Speaker, I hereby give notice that on a future day I shall move the adoption of the following resolution:
Whereas Nova Scotians want and deserve a government that is responsive, transparent, and accountable; and
Whereas the Province managed a record-breaking volume of Freedom of Information requests in 2024-25 and completed 89 percent of them on time, one of the highest rates in Canada; and
Whereas the number of requests under the Freedom of Information and Protection of Privacy Act reached more than 3,800, an increase of 15 percent from 2023-24. That is the highest number of applications submitted to the government in the 30 years that this legislation has been in place;
Therefore be it resolved that all members of this Legislature recognize September 23 to September 29, 2025, as Right to Know Week in the province of Nova Scotia.
Speaker, I ask for waiver of notice and passage without debate.
THE SPEAKER « » : There has been a request for waiver.
Is it agreed?
It is agreed.
All those in favour? Contrary minded? Thank you.
The motion is carried.
INTRODUCTION OF BILLS
Bill No. 149 - An Act Respecting Energy. (Hon. Trevor Boudreau)
Bill No. 150 - An Act Respecting the Right of Access to Records of Public Bodies and the Right of Privacy with Respect to Personal Information Held by Public Bodies. (Hon. Becky Druhan)
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Bill No. 151 - An Act to Amend Chapter 31 of the Acts of 1996, the Sales Tax Act, Respecting Veterinary Services. (Hon. Iain Rankin)
Bill No. 152 - An Act to Amend Chapter 217 of the Revised Statutes, 1989, the Income Tax Act, Respecting the Basic Personal Amount. (Elizabeth Smith-McCrossin)
Bill No. 153 - An Act Respecting Used Vehicle Sales. (Elizabeth Smith-McCrossin)
Bill No. 154 - An Act to Improve the Collection of Data and Statistics Respecting Rural Areas. (Elizabeth Smith-McCrossin)
Bill No. 155 - An Act to Amend Chapter 228 of the Acts of 1920, An Act to Incorporate The Yarmouth Golf and Country Club. (Nick Hilton)
THE SPEAKER « » : Ordered that these bills be read a second time on a future day.
NOTICES OF MOTION
STATEMENTS BY MEMBERS
THE SPEAKER « » : The honourable member for Dartmouth South.
AUTISM NOVA SCOTIA: LEADERSHIP - CELEBRATE
CLAUDIA CHENDER « » : I rise today to recognize the leadership of Autism Nova Scotia at a time when harmful and misleading rhetoric about autism is circulating beyond our borders. When public figures in the United States have spread misinformation, Autism Nova Scotia has continued to serve as a trusted, evidence-based voice here at home. They have safeguarded the dignity of autistic people and have worked tirelessly to foster understanding, acceptance, and inclusion across our province.
I ask all leaders in this House and beyond to join me in rejecting misinformation, to continue advancing greater acceptance and stronger supports for autistic and neurodiverse Nova Scotians, and to celebrate the leadership of Autism Nova Scotia.
THE SPEAKER « » : The honourable member for Sydney-Membertou.
TEAM CANADA: RUGBY WORLD FINAL - SUPPORT
HON. DEREK MOMBOURQUETTE « » : I'm rising on my feet today just because tomorrow, for rugby fans across our province and beyond, Team Canada has made the world final and they're playing England in front of a record-breaking 82,000 people.
It's a pretty amazing story when you think about how Canada got there and the journey they've been on. What a great opportunity for the players. We're all very proud of the women's rugby team. I just want to rise in my place to wish them the best and encourage anyone to tune in and support Canada. What a moment it is for our country. It's expected to be an outstanding match, and as I said, in front of over 80,000 people. I rise in my place. Let's go, Canada.
THE SPEAKER « » : The honourable member for Glace Bay-Dominion.
WHITE, JOHN & JUNIE: 33RD WEDDING ANNIV. - CONGRATS.
JOHN WHITE « » : As we travel along this river of life, our relationships form who we become and who we are. Some relationships play like ripples on the surface of the water, and some change the current. Sometimes, if you're really lucky, you meet that person who causes the river to cut into the riverbank and change direction, forging a new way.
Thirty-three years ago today, Junie did that to me with the words, "I do." Gotcha now. With those two small words, Junie gave me a life that I never dreamt was possible for me. She helped me believe in myself to chase my own education, she provided two beautiful, well-educated daughters who are the world to us, and a lifetime of cherished memories.
I've got to say, I tell a lot of people there are two handprints on a back. I don't know if it's Junie pushing me forward or catching me when I fall backwards, but either way, she's the nourishment in my river of life. Today is our anniversary. Happy anniversary, Junie. I love you. (Standing Ovation)
THE SPEAKER « » : Happy anniversary, Junie, and of course the honourable member.
The honourable member for Fairview-Clayton Park.
LINA HAMID « » : I beg leave to make an introduction.
THE SPEAKER « » : Please do.
LINA HAMID « » : In your gallery today, we have Fatima Adam and Abdel Karim Musa - if you could stand - who are going to be the subjects of my member statement. They are outstanding members of the Sudanese-Canadian community and great entrepreneurs. (Applause)
THE SPEAKER « » : Welcome to the House. We hope you enjoy your time here.
The honourable member for Fairview-Clayton Park.
MUSA & FAMILY DESIGNS: SUDANESE-OWNED BUS. - RECOG.
LINA HAMID « » : I rise today to celebrate the entrepreneurial spirit and cultural contributions of Musa & Family Designs, a Sudanese-owned fashion business right in Fairview. Founded in 2019 by Musa and Fatima Adam, who recognized the need for multicultural clothing options in the area, this business is a testament to their hard work, talent, and Musa & Family Designs offers a wide range of apparel and accessories, from modest clothing, prom dresses, shoes, national African clothing, blazers, hijabs - anything you can possibly think of. They also provide custom designs, expert tailoring, and dry cleaning.
Musa & Family Designs is more than just a business. It is a valuable part of our community's fabric, offering unique fashion and cultural apparel that serves the diverse needs of its customers.
I ask all members to join me in recognizing this business for its contributions to our local economy and our community and to pay them a visit if you can.
THE SPEAKER « » : The honourable member for Timberlea-Prospect.
PROSPECT ROAD TRAFFIC STUDY: COMMUNITY ADVOCATES - THANKS
HON. IAIN RANKIN « » : I want to recognize the extraordinary dedication and community spirit demonstrated by Dana Giles, Ritamae Schwartz, Donna Pettipas, Barb Allen, and Michael Lamplugh for their efforts to gather signatures for a petition requesting the allocation of capital, implementing recommendations, and releasing the Prospect Road Traffic Study. Recommendations from the study, once released, are intended to ensure our transportation network supports sustainable growth, mitigates safety risks, and enhances connectivity for all who live in, work in, and visit the region.
To secure our community's voice, they probed and dedicated countless hours to engage the neighbours, explaining the importance of the study and encouraging active participation. Their tireless commitment resulted in an impressive collection of signatures reflecting the widespread desire for transparency and public input as transportation decisions are made. Their actions exemplify the very best of community advocacy, working together for safer roads, responsible development, and a brighter future for Prospect Road and in the surrounding communities.
Please join me in thanking Dana, Ritamae, Donna, Barb, Michael, and all those who were involved in creating such a successful petition - over 2,000 signatures - for their contribution and for reminding all of us of the power of civic engagement.
THE SPEAKER « » : The honourable member for Victoria-The Lakes.
DIANNE TIMMINS: Speaker, before I begin my statement, I beg leave to make an introduction.
THE SPEAKER « » : Please do.
DIANNE TIMMINS: Joining us today in your gallery, I am honoured to introduce a remarkable woman who I am proud to call my friend, Nancy Smith. Nancy, can you please stand and receive a warm welcome from our MLAs. (Applause)
THE SPEAKER « » : Welcome, Nancy. Welcome to the House. We hope you enjoy your time here.
The honourable member for Victoria-The Lakes.
SMITH, NANCY: OUTSTANDING COMMUNITY SERV. - THANK
DIANNE TIMMINS: Speaker, today I rise to recognize my dear friend, Nancy Smith, who is also a second cousin to my husband, Brian. Nancy is a lifelong, cherished volunteer in her community of North Shore. She is a devoted mother, grandmother, and great-grandmother, but if you ask anyone in her family or community, they will tell you Nancy is not your typical grandmother. She fished for more than 25 years, and after the passing of her husband, Dennis, she continued on as captain.
Nancy has served as a first responder and an active member of the North Shore Volunteer Fire Department for more than 30 years. She was also the first female volunteer fire chief in Nova Scotia. As well, Nancy remains active in her church, the local health centre, and the war memorial committee. Nancy is currently serving as the president of the Victoria-The Lakes PC Association and was a key supporter in both my and Keith Bain's election campaigns.
Speaker, I ask all members of the Legislature to please join me in recognizing Nancy's outstanding leadership, tireless service, and compassion she brings to her community.
THE SPEAKER « » : The honourable member for Sackville-Cobequid.
CUPE LOCAL 3912: ESSENTIAL WORKERS' VALUE - RECOG.
PAUL WOZNEY « » : I rise today in solidarity with the teaching assistants, researchers, and part-time instructors of CUPE Local 3912 employed at Dalhousie, Saint Mary's, and Mount Saint Vincent. Dalhousie and Saint Mary's members have voted overwhelmingly to strike, and members at the Mount voted yesterday on the same question.
At our universities, scores of staff must renegotiate their contracts each semester and face the constant fear that they may not be re-signed. They do much of the same work as tenured professors but without the same benefits of stability or of employment. To make matters worse, many of these academic workers are among Canada's lowest paid in the sector, despite our tuition fees ranking among the highest in the country.
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Speaker, I ask that all present join me in calling on our universities to recognize the value of these essential workers and avert further job action. Those who are so integral to higher education in our province deserve conditions commensurate with their expertise and passion and the stability to do the work they love, with confidence.
THE SPEAKER « » : The honourable member for Sydney-Membertou.
DAUGHTER, EMILY - BIRTHDAY WISHES
HON. DEREK MOMBOURQUETTE « » : I get to do this every year and I get to do it for the 11th year. This past week a little girl turned 11 - yay! Emilie Sarah Mombourquette turned 11. She was hanging out with her buddies; Dad couldn't be home but she had a good time.
I rise in my place to tell my daughter I love her. She's a great big sister to Allie. They are all a reflection of their mother so they're the best. I just sit back and watch it all happen.
I rise in my place to recognize Emilie, recognize her 11th birthday, and just say how proud I am for all she does for everyone and that heart of gold that she has. Happy Birthday, Emilie.
THE SPEAKER « » : The honourable member for Pictou Centre.
FITT, ART: N.S. COUNTRY MUSIC HALL OF FAME INDUCT. - CONGRATS.
DANNY MACGILLIVRAY: Tomorrow, September 27th, we will proudly celebrate the induction of Stellarton native Art Fitt into the Nova Scotia Country Music Hall of Fame, a fitting honour for a man whose music and heart have touched so many.
A lifelong and well-known musician, he has brought joy to countless audiences with his talent, charm, and genuine connection to people. Beyond the stage, Art dedicated 13 years to public service in Stellarton as both town councillor and mayor. His leadership helped shaped our community, from developing sports complexes and recreational facilities to improving infrastructure. He led with vision and always put the needs of residents first.
Perhaps his most lasting legacy is his work as an addictions counsellor. With compassion, patience, and unwavering dedication, he mentored and supported hundreds of people, guiding them towards hope and recovery.
Art has been and remains a man of the people, a leader, a mentor, a musician, and a friend to all who know him. Stellarton, and indeed Nova Scotia, is a better place because of him.
THE SPEAKER « » : The honourable member for Halifax Needham.
FRASER, ROSELLA: RETIREMENT - CONGRATS.
SUZY HANSEN « » : I rise today to recognize Ms. Rosella Fraser for her unwavering support in our communities. This week she will be celebrating her last day of work with HRM REC, serving 39 years. In those years she helped roles that supported our communities in the north end of Halifax and in North Preston.
I met Rosie many years ago when I was a young person in church and she helped young people like me learn to love community and not be afraid to volunteer in community. When I was old enough to work, one of my first jobs was with REC, and Rosie was there as a support to guide us and give us gems to help us through life. With her calm presence and soft voice, Rosella has been a beacon of hope and I am thankful for her service.
I would like all members of this House to join me in celebrating our Black queen, Rosella Fraser, and thank her for her many years and commitment to our communities. Happy retirement.
THE SPEAKER « » : The honourable member for Timberlea-Prospect.
MCKENNA, ELIZABETH IONA: DEATH OF - TRIBUTE
HON. IAIN RANKIN « » : I rise to remember Elizabeth Iona McKenna from Beechville who distinguished herself in both athletics and the arts. Elizabeth could often be found on the local basketball court perfecting her jumpshot or twirling a baton as part of her majorette corps. Her talent earned her the esteemed title of Halifax's Miss Majorette. She made history as the first Black Miss Halifax, a testament to her trailblazing spirit and her commitment to breaking barriers.
She attended SMU, graduating in 1979 with a Bachelor of Arts and was a key player on the 1976-1977 women's basketball team that clinched the Atlantic University Athletic Association Championship, a team whose remarkable achievements were induction into the Saint Mary's Sport Hall of Fame in 2024.
Elizabeth's extraordinary contributions to sport and community will continue to be celebrated as her enduring legacy is further recognized through her upcoming induction into the Nova Scotia Sport Hall of Fame herself, Class of 2025.
Elizabeth's life was one of service, excellence and inspiration. She leaves behind a legacy that will long be cherished by her family, friends, and the wider Nova Scotian communities. May her memory inspire us all to lead with compassion, break new ground, and uplift those around us.
THE SPEAKER « » : The honourable member for Truro-Bible Hill-Millbrook-Salmon River.
TRURO FIRE DEPT: GEORGE JONES MEM. FIRE STATION - RECOG.
HON. DAVE RITCEY « » : Speaker, I rise today to recognize the Truro Fire Service on the historic renaming of their fire station to the George Jones Memorial Fire Station.
Unveiled on June 25th, this tribute honours the legacy of George Jones, a Black barber and a visionary community leader who united residents in forming Truro's first bucket company in 1860. From his Queen Street barber shop, Jones fostered a spirit of service and cooperation that laid the groundwork for today's modern fire service in Truro.
This renaming not only celebrates his enduring contributions, but also recognizes a profound and lasting impact of African Nova Scotian communities in Nova Scotia. This tribute is a proud and meaningful milestone that reminds us of the strength found in community leadership and shared purpose.
THE SPEAKER « » : The honourable member for Cape Breton Centre-Whitney Pier.
CANADA POST STRIKE: ESSENTIAL SERV. - RECOG.
KENDRA COOMBES « » : The postal workers are back on strike after the federal government told Canada Post to make some major changes to the way it delivers mail, like stopping door-to-door deliveries and closing some rural postal offices.
I stand in solidarity with the postal workers and the Canadian Union of Postal Workers. Door-to-door delivery is essential and rural post offices play a vital role in our communities. I am proud to stand with CUPW. Thank you. Solidarity.
THE SPEAKER « » : The honourable member for Cumberland North.
CHIGNECTO ISTHMUS: HISTORIC SIG. - RECOG.
ELIZABETH SMITH-MCCROSSIN « » : Speaker, we all know the importance of protecting the Chignecto Isthmus, but we don't often talk about the important history of that area.
The name Chignecto is a European adaptation of the Mi'kmaw term for a much larger region, Siknikt or Sikniktuk, the drainage area, that extends from the Cobequid highlands to the eastern edge of the Wolastoq (Saint John River) drainage area, and north to the Baie de Chaleur. The isthmus, at the centre of that district, is a resource-rich marshland traversed by rivers and portage routes that link the Bay of Fundy to the Gulf of St. Lawrence, and further to major river routes leading to the interior of the continent.
This area has much rich history for both our Indigenous people as well as those who have immigrated here and I look forward to seeing this area recognized.
THE SPEAKER « » : The honourable member for Colchester-Musquodoboit Valley.
ROYAL CDN. LEGION BRANCH NO. 70: 80TH ANNIV. - CONGRATS.
HON. SCOTT ARMSTRONG « » : Speaker, I rise today to pay tribute to the Royal Canadian Legion Branch #70, in Stewiacke. Organized in 1945 before the end of World War II, with their first meeting held at the union hall, this year they are celebrating their 80th year of operation.
The branch is located at 299 George Street in Stewiacke, where they've been since its opening on November 11th of 1952. According to the Town of Stewiacke's Centennial Project, there were 14 charter members. Like all legions, the Stewiacke branch provides a number of services to the community, firstly being an advocate for veterans benefits and support for the military and RCMP. They also promote education and remembrance of our military heritage. As well, a variety of social activities are held at the legion along with fundraising for its members and local residents, bringing a sense of community to the forefront.
I ask all members to join me in wishing the Stewiacke Legion Branch No. 70 a happy 80th anniversary. We wish you continued success as you serve our community with such valuable services.
THE SPEAKER « » : The honourable member for Dartmouth North.
DART. NORTH PRIDE PARTY: JAY AARON ROY - BEST WISHES
SUSAN LEBLANC « » : Speaker, a lot goes into organizing our annual Dartmouth North Pride party. Baking cupcakes, recruiting volunteers, building the perfect Queer anthem playlist, and keeping the hot dogs coming for all the hungry attendees, but the hardest job of all has to be that of the celebrity bingo caller. North Dartmouthians are some of the kindest people you will every meet, but when it comes to bingo, all bets are off.
As a special celebrity guest at this year's Pride party, Dartmouth North resident and Queer activist Jay Aaron Roy rose to the task of keeping the bingo games under control. His sense of positivity and infectious smile light up every room he is in, even the most cutthroat of bingo halls.
When not calling bingo at Pride parties, Jay is the owner of Cape and Cowl Comics where he has created a beautiful, supportive space for Queer youth to feel safe and be themselves. His positive impact on our city and province is immeasurable.
I would ask the House to join me in thanking Jay Aaron Roy for his advocacy, kindness, and excellent bingo-calling skills.
THE SPEAKER « » : The honourable member for Cumberland North.
ALZ. SOC. OF N.S.: AMHERST SUPPORT GROUP - RECOG.
ELIZABETH SMITH-MCCROSSIN « » : Today I want to recognize and thank the Alzheimer Society of Nova Scotia and in particular their support of the Caregiver Support Group in Amherst. The third Monday of each month the group meets for two hours at the Trinity-St. Stephen's United Church, where those caring for a loved one with dementia can share their experiences and offer encouragement to others.
I recently had the opportunity to meet with Rosanne Burke, manager of advocacy for the Alzheimer Society of Nova Scotia, who shared information of the work that they are doing. Dementia of any type presents a long and difficult journey. The work of the association in offering education and support services can be instrumental in helping families and individuals.
Speaker, please join me in thanking the Alzheimer Society of Nova Scotia, as well as all those who organize local support groups, like the one we have in Amherst. Let us also encourage and sincerely thank the hundreds of caregivers across the province, who love and care for those with dementia.
THE SPEAKER « » : The honourable member for Bedford Basin.
TIM OUTHIT « » : I would like to make some introductions before I begin my statement.
THE SPEAKER « » : Please do.
TIM OUTHIT « » : Joining us in the gallery today, we have Bhaveshkumar Valand, we have Hosam - better known as Sam - Alsayed, we have Mahesh Valand, we have Vishnu Valand, and we have Prakash Parekh. They are all from The Big Moustache Barbershop. Please welcome them to our House.
THE SPEAKER « » : Welcome to the House. We hope you enjoy your time here.
The honourable member for Bedford Basin.
BIG MOUSTACHE BARBER SHOP: BUSINESS SUCCESS - CONGRATS.
TIM OUTHIT « » : I rise today to recognize Kumar Valand and Sam Alsayed. Kumar is originally from India and came to Nova Scotia in 2017 to study at Dalhousie University. Sam is originally from Syria and came to Canada in 2016 with his family. Together, they opened The Big Moustache in September of 2019.
The Big Moustache Barbershop is now the largest men's grooming chain in Nova Scotia, with six locations across the HRM. Kumar and Sam have been honoured with two major awards, Immigrant Entrepreneurs of the Year and Asian Heritage Entrepreneur of the Year. The Big Moustache has recently announced plans to launch a barber academy. This is a certification course that teaches professional barbering skills. They will work to fill the gap in the availability of talent.
I ask members of the House to join me in congratulating Sam, Kumar, and all our guests, including congratulating them on opening one in Sunnyside Mall, where I go. We wish them all the best with their future expansions. (Applause)
THE SPEAKER « » : The honourable member for Fairview-Clayton Park.
N.S. NOMINEE PROG.: ACCESS FAILURE - IMPROVE
LINA HAMID « » : I rise today to speak about a critical failure in the Nova Scotia Nominee Program that is hurting our health care system and abandoning workers who want nothing more than to serve this province.
Nova Scotia has trained hundreds of continuing care assistants, who want to stay here and work on the front lines, but instead, many are trapped in a backlog. People are waiting months or even years, unable to work, and some are forced to leave Canada altogether, taking their much-needed skills with them.
I have tabled more than 200 emails from people left behind by this program from across all sectors. I implore every member to read them. These are real people with skills, experience, and much to offer our province. It is a cruel irony that this government campaigns abroad to recruit workers from overseas, while allowing those who are already here and trained here to be pushed out by red tape.
THE SPEAKER « » : The honourable member for Inverness.
SON, COLIN - BIRTHDAY WISHES
KYLE MACQUARRIE « » : Speaker, I just want to say happy birthday to my son, Colin. He's a great guy. Better than I can say in two seconds.
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THE SPEAKER « » : Order. Great timing, honourable member.
ORDERS OF THE DAY
ORAL QUESTIONS PUT BY MEMBERS TO MINISTERS
THE SPEAKER « » : The time is now 10:00 a.m. We will finish at 10:50 a.m.
The honourable Leader of the Official Opposition.
PREM.: $1.2-BILLION DEFICIT - EXPLAIN
CLAUDIA CHENDER « » : Speaker, this government is projecting a record $1.2-billion deficit. Meanwhile, families are spending $400 more a year on power bills. It's now more expensive to live and commute in Nova Scotia than it is in Toronto. The average Nova Scotian's rent has gone up by nearly $4,400 per year. Half of Nova Scotian workers are being paid less than a living wage, and most of these workers are women.
My question is: What do Nova Scotians have to show for this historic deficit?
THE PREMIER « » : Of course, every single dollar of that deficit is invested in Nova Scotians and supporting Nova Scotians. We're trying to fix the messes we inherited in health care and housing. We will continue to invest in Nova Scotians, and we won't be shy about it.
I would just remind the member that those investments went to health care. Those investments went to rental subsidies. Those investments went into affordable housing. Those investments went into cutting taxes.
Every time we tried to make one of those steps to support Nova Scotians, the NDP stood up and voted against it. We will not give up on Nova Scotians. We will continue to support them despite the objections of the NDP.
CLAUDIA CHENDER « » : They also seem to have gone to a number of untendered contracts and handshakes in the Premier's Office.
According to an RBC poll, Nova Scotians believe that the cost of living is the most important issue. Among Atlantic Canadians, almost 75 percent feel financially paralyzed and are struggling to manage daily costs; 64 percent say that they are spending all of their income on bills and essentials; and over 60 percent say they worry that they will never get ahead financially.
This government can congratulate themselves all they want, but under their watch, Nova Scotians are falling behind. What does the Premier have to say to the hundreds of thousands of Nova Scotians who worry that they will never get ahead?
THE SPEAKER « » : We're two questions in and it's already coming close to that line. I would prefer that it not.
The honourable Premier.
THE PREMIER « » : I think the NDP know what they talk about with handshake deals. Nova Scotians will remember what happened in this province when the NDP was in government. In case they forget, I'll just say: "Now boarding."
For a party that has so much baggage, they were elected on a promise - the NDP that one time - of no new taxes. What's the first thing they did, Speaker? They increased taxes. Then they got cozy with Nova Scotia Power - travelled around on private jets with Nova Scotia Power.
We will stand up for Nova Scotians, and Nova Scotians know that.
CLAUDIA CHENDER « » : Sounds like the Premier's getting close, too.
Listen, if we want to talk about campaign promises, let's talk about order-making powers for the Information and Privacy Commissioner and protecting Nova Scotians. Let's talk about reinstating school boards.
Nova Scotia has the highest poverty rate in the country. There hasn't been a poverty reduction strategy since 2009. The number of Nova Scotians living in poverty has increased by 59 percent since this government was elected. With spending at record levels, people are falling further behind.
My question to the Premier is: What is the plan to help the increasing number of Nova Scotians living in and falling into poverty?
THE PREMIER « » : We know Nova Scotians are struggling. That's why we're doing all we can to support them. That's how we have a deficit. We'll continue to support Nova Scotians. It's also why we instituted a school lunch program. That lunch program has delivered over 4 million lunches at this stage, I think. Guess who voted against it? The NDP.
If we want to talk about election promises, I'll remind the member that we were the only party that talked about raising the minimum wage during an election campaign. The only party that stands up for Nova Scotians - that's the PC Party. They can try to claim that mantle, but actions matter, and I'm proud of our actions.
THE SPEAKER « » : The honourable Leader of the Liberal Party.
PREM.: HFX. WATER INFRASTRUCTURE - SUPPORT
HON. DEREK MOMBOURQUETTE « » : We've spent much of the week talking about Nova Scotia Power and the impact that rising rates will have on families, but it's not the only utility looking for a hike. Halifax Water is asking for a 37-percent increase over the next two years.
While it is a municipal utility, one of the main drivers is aging infrastructure, something the Province can help with. What action is this government taking to support Halifax Water with its aging infrastructure so that families don't shoulder this massive increase?
THE PREMIER « » : We can get the member the exact number, but I believe it's over $250 million that our government is investing in infrastructure.
My message to Halifax Water is very simple: Do better. So many times, people had to boil water in boil-water advisories - not the time to be coming back to Nova Scotians asking for an incredible increase like that. Do better, Halifax Water, and do better, Halifax Regional Municipality Council, on taking care of them.
DEREK MOMBOURQUETTE « » : Back in May, we wrote to the Minister of Public Works asking his department to invest a portion of the $170 million it is receiving from the Canada Housing Infrastructure Fund to help Halifax Water upgrade its systems. Without that support, families in HRM could see their water bills jump by $300 a year. To date, the minister hasn't said how the fund will be used.
I'll ask the Premier directly: Will he direct the minister to invest some of this infrastructure funding to Halifax Water to prevent families being hit with hundreds of dollars in extra costs?
THE PREMIER « » : We know the infrastructure needs across this province are very significant. There was a long period of time under NDP and Liberal governments where infrastructure investments weren't a priority. We're trying to catch up on the infrastructure deficit. We're looking carefully at the needs, and we'll do what we can, for sure.
In terms of supporting Nova Scotians, this is why we cut taxes - a $500 million tax cut. This is why we removed the bridge tolls. This is why we have free parking at the hospitals. We are doing what we can to support Nova Scotians. We want to build up this province despite those who want to block us at every step along the way. We will continue to build up this province, because we're the builders and they're the blockers.
DEREK MOMBOURQUETTE « » : Well, the Premier drives Highway No. 104 to Halifax every day, and that was a pretty significant infrastructure project under the last government. This government has done an awful lot of ribbon-cutting over the years on projects that were approved before them.
The Premier has said he doesn't want to see costs downloaded onto families. That's exactly what will happen if this government doesn't act. Halifax Water is in front of the NSUARB right now asking for a 37 percent rate hike increase, and the Province isn't stepping up to the plate.
Will the Premier commit today to working with Halifax Water and the municipality to find a solution so that families aren't left to pay the price of government inaction?
THE PREMIER « » : The Province will be intervening in that process before the NSUARB. We'll work with anyone who puts the interests of Nova Scotians first. Anybody who puts the interests of Nova Scotians first, that's who we want to work with. We've shown that time and time again.
THE SPEAKER « » : The honourable Leader of the Official Opposition.
DMA: HALIFAX WATER INFRASTRUCTURE - SUPPORT
CLAUDIA CHENDER « » : I was going to continue to ask about this record of spending, but my colleague raises a really important point about Halifax Water and about infrastructure.
The first campaign promise this Premier made was to double the population, so we brought a whole bunch of people to Nova Scotia. Now, tens of thousands of them are stuck in administrative limbo around their immigration status, more and more of them can't get to work every day because of transportation, and our infrastructure is failing.
My question to the Premier is: What is the Premier going to do, other than be disappointed, to ensure that Halifax Water's infrastructure will be up to the task and we won't pay the tax?
HON. JOHN LOHR « » : I'm very pleased to talk about infrastructure. We have invested steadily as a government over the past four years. We've invested over $250 million in infrastructure across all 49 municipalities, including HRM. We will continue to do that.
We recognize the infrastructure deficit that we have inherited, as a government, and we are working hard to meet those needs of ordinary Nova Scotians for water, sewer, and sidewalks. We recognize how important these items are to building the homes we need in our province.
CLAUDIA CHENDER « » : The federal government has had housing-enabling infrastructure funds available. There is nothing that enables housing more than water. We know that our water infrastructure is failing, particularly here in HRM.
This government is apparently quite good friends with their colleagues in Ottawa. My question to the minister is: Have they made a formal request for significant infrastructure investments, like Quebec did, to fix the water problems we have and enable more housing?
JOHN LOHR « » : Just for the information for the member and for the House, the Investing in Canada Infrastructure Program expired about three years ago. I can tell the members that every Minister of Municipal Affairs across the country has repeatedly asked Ottawa for a new fund.
Yesterday, I was on a Teams call with the Minister of Finance and National Revenue, François-Philippe Champagne, and other Ministers of Finance across the country. We again reiterated the pressing need in every province for infrastructure spending, and we again asked Ottawa, with the soon upcoming federal budget, for another reinvestment, like the ICIP, for infrastructure. In every province, every minister . . .
THE SPEAKER « » : The honourable member for Halifax Armdale.
DHW: FAMILY DOCTORS NEEDED - PROVIDE
ROD WILSON « » : Yesterday, the Minister of Health and Wellness said there were 30 new med students in Cape Breton - excellent news. However, the reality is that it will be six and a half years - approximately July 2032 - before those medical students are eligible to practice medicine in Nova Scotia.
The family crisis is here now. As we sit here, there are tens of thousands of Nova Scotians without a family doctor.
My question to the minister is: Can the minister tell us how many doctors are needed during the next six years in order to provide Nova Scotians with a family doctor and access to care before 2032?
HON. MICHELLE THOMPSON » : Of course, there's workforce planning that's happening, not only in the Department of Health and Wellness and the Office of Healthcare Professionals Recruitment but also with our operators, as well. We're really pleased with our recruitment efforts and with the new program that's in conjunction with the College of Physicians and Surgeons called PACE, where we can take in internationally educated physicians and train them, making sure their competencies are such that they can work in Nova Scotia.
We expect that we can take about 45 physicians per year through that program. It's incredible. We have a record number of physician students in our med schools. We have a new medical school. We are looking at increases. We are on the move.
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ROD WILSON « » : Statistics from the College of Physicians and Surgeons of Nova Scotia show as of March 31, 2024, 43 percent of all doctors in Nova Scotia are over the age of 50, so approximately 1,300, and 20 percent are over the age 60. I happen to be one of those trying to fill gaps in rural Nova Scotia. This makes me question if the Need a Family Practice Registry will ever get to zero.
What is the government's plan over the next six years? Should all Nova Scotians expect to get a family doctor under this government's term, or should some Nova Scotians just accept the fact they will not get a family doctor in the next six years?
MICHELLE THOMPSON « » : Speaker, of course we have a significant focus, not only on family physicians but on primary care in general. Nurse practitioners are also part of the mix and were able to deliver comprehensive care to Nova Scotians. We are building teams across this province so that people can go through one door and get the care that they need.
We have seen over 70,000 people come off that list in the past year. People should feel very confident in their ability to seek primary care, and if there are episodic issues or if they are not current attached, there are 70,000 appointments more every month where people can access care in this province - almost one million appointments a year for a million people.
THE SPEAKER « » : The honourable member for Fairview-Clayton Park.
LSI: N.S. NOM. PROG. WORK PERMIT EXPIRATIONS - EXPLAIN
LINA HAMID « » : To the Minister of Labour, Skills and Immigration, Nova Scotia is losing out on good workers and good neighbours. Last year, more than 600 Nova Scotia Nominee Program applicants saw their work permits expire before their cases were ever processed. How can this government promise more faster, while their delays are leaving hundreds in limbo?
HON. NOLAN YOUNG « » : Speaker, Nova Scotia is working to keep our residents here. At the same time, we are truly focused on processing right now, which is in health care and construction and some other critical sectors. I'd like to just add to this that looking at the health care recruitment that we've been doing and the successes that we're building on - in 2024, Nova Scotia approved more than twice the immigrant applications for construction workers, and over 30 percent more in health care.
LINA HAMID « » : There is proof that's been tabled that due to this government's delays, we are missing out on health care workers, we are missing out on construction workers, and we are missing out on service workers. We are training them here and then letting them go. How does this government expect to provide health care, build homes, and boost tourism when we are letting hundreds of workers slip through the cracks?
NOLAN YOUNG « » : Speaker, I wholeheartedly disagree with that comment. While I can't speak about individual cases on the floor, we are doing a lot with recruitment of health care and construction workers, and the numbers coming in so far this year - it's good. It's working.
THE SPEAKER « » : The honourable member for Cumberland North.
DPW: CHIGNECTO ISTHMUS CONSTRUC. DELAY - ADDRESS
ELIZABETH SMITH-MCCROSSIN « » : Speaker, the Chignecto Isthmus is Nova Scotia's most critical trade corridor, but protecting it has already been delayed for years. When this government first came into office in 2021, we were told it would take ten years. Now they are into their fifth year of governing and we are still being told it will take ten years.
There is no clear public timeline, there are no milestones, there is no assurance of fair and open tendering processes. We've read the Auditor General's report on the Hogan Court debacle and the recent report on long-term care beds and the lack of following laws on proper procurement and more.
Will the minister guarantee full transparency on the Chignecto Isthmus project, assuring us of fair tendering processes?
HON. FRED TILLEY » : Speaker, there is so much work happening in the Chignecto Isthmus. We are working on the isthmus and, of course, all of our tendering processes are fair.
ELIZABETH SMITH-MCCROSSIN « » : Speaker, I am not sure if maybe the minister hasn't read the AG reports that I have and I encourage him to do so. In the words of the Premier, I think this government needs to do better. Do better on the Chignecto Isthmus. Not only is it important to the people of the area where I live, this ensures that all Nova Scotians live in a province that does not become an island. The Premier likes to talk a lot about his prized Wind West or Eastern Energy Partnership, but if the Chignecto Isthmus fails, that project is also in trouble.
Will the minister admit that without urgent action and full transparency on the Chignecto Isthmus, their so-called nation-building project will be built on unstable ground in an unstable future?
FRED TILLEY « » : What I will admit is that this government is doing everything we can do to protect Nova Scotians. We recognize the importance of the isthmus. We recognize it so much, Speaker, that the Premier took a full day to travel with me to look at the isthmus. If the member doesn't feel that there's much being done, check the video, and maybe share that video with her constituents to show what's being done at the isthmus. The isthmus is being looked after.
THE SPEAKER « » : The honourable member for Halifax Armdale.
DHW: LACK OF REGISTRY ACCESS - EXPLAIN
ROD WILSON « » : Speaker, at a recent Health Committee this year, we heard from Dr. Leisha Hawker, who works in addiction medicine. She told us that many of her patients are not on the Need a Family Practice Registry as they can't access the registry for many reasons.
This raises the question: Does the minister have any estimates of how many Nova Scotians do not have a family doctor and are not on the Need a Family Practice Registry?
HON. MICHELLE THOMPSON « » : There are a number of ways that Nova Scotians can access care. We're certainly very grateful for the work that happens with addiction medicine, particularly the MOSH unit, which reaches out to people who are particularly marginalized and perhaps are not attached to a family practice for a number of different reasons. There are access points for people across this province.
We worked very hard to make that Need a Family Practice Registry very accessible to folks. You don't need to sign up online. You can call. There are a number of different ways that people can access care. We continue to work with providers to understand the clientele that they're working with in order for us to enhance services wherever we can.
ROD WILSON « » : Speaker, yesterday the minister said if a person has been on the Need a Family Practice Registry for a long time, it's generally because of a breakdown in communications. I agree. That is so true.
We recently heard from a senior who experienced just that. After calling to find out where her husband is on the list, the person was told the husband was not on the list, even though he had joined three years ago. They were never contacted; he was just removed - a true breakdown in communications.
This raises for me and many Nova Scotians: How can Nova Scotians have any confidence in the government's published attachment numbers when we know the Need a Family Practice Registry is so inaccurate?
MICHELLE THOMPSON « » : I think Nova Scotians should feel very confident. We have invested an incredible amount of money in order to support health care access in this province. We have recruited physicians. We have expanded our workforce in nursing and all of the allied health care professions. We have moved that list from simply an Excel spreadsheet to a registry. People do have a responsibility to call in and make sure they're on the list - or on the registry. When that happens, we work very hard in order to attach them to the appropriate care provider. There are a number of options including primary care clinics that will follow people until they are permanently attached. If anyone has any questions or wants to check, certainly they can call 811 to find out what their options are.
THE SPEAKER « » : The honourable member for Cape Breton Centre-Whitney Pier.
GAD - C.B. SEN. PUB. HOUSING: SAFETY CONCERNS - EXPLAIN
KENDRA COOMBES « » : Speaker, some seniors in Cape Breton public housing had to wear their winter jackets inside last year because the heat wasn't working, and I'll table that. They have been left without proper outdoor lighting, without a safe pathway to their common areas, and with repairs that take months to complete.
With another winter around the corner, can the minister responsible for housing explain why this government is leaving Cape Breton seniors in the cold?
HON. COLTON LEBLANC « » : I want to reassure all Nova Scotians that we're there for all tenants in our Nova Scotia Provincial Housing Agency units - the more than 12,000 across this province. I've been made aware of this particular situation. Understanding that, my staff or the staff of the agency have taken action. They were made aware of this. They went out and started addressing some of these situations.
It highlights the need to reach out to the district office and bring these to the attention of staff. The staff are very committed to supporting these tenants and their best interests.
KENDRA COOMBES « » : These residents have done all that. I've spoken to residents in my constituency who have done all of that, and what they hear is that Housing does not have the money to do the work that they need to do. I've spoken with seniors who are living in mouldy rooms, seniors who can't cook on broken stoves, seniors whose ceilings are falling in, and seniors who need flashlights to get around their home. This government needs to step up and make sure this public housing is actually livable.
I suspect the minister responsible for Housing wouldn't be living in an apartment with mould, broken appliances, or lights that don't work. Why does he expect Cape Breton seniors to?
COLTON LEBLANC « » : To insinuate that our public housing units are uninhabitable is a far cry from the truth. We are there to support Nova Scotians. We are there to improve the infrastructure that's there: over $48 million in last year's budget and another $62 million in this year's budget.
Again, we need tenants to come forward and share concerns that they have. If ceilings are falling in in our public housing units, I'd certainly encourage the member to reach out directly to the department and make sure we address that.
THE SPEAKER « » : The honourable member for Halifax Needham.
RTA: SCOTIAN APART. RENT CONCERNS - ADDRESS
SUZY HANSEN « » : The end of the month is coming up, and that means rent is due for hundreds of thousands of Nova Scotians across this province. That includes residents of The Scotian apartment building, who were without power for more than two weeks. They were living in an unlivable situation, yet they're still expected to pay rent in full.
My question is to the minister responsible for Residential Tenancies: Does the minister think it's fair for renters to pay for housing that they couldn't safely use?
HON. JILL BALSER « » : We do have the Residential Tenancies Program, to which I would encourage all tenants who were tenants of The Scotian to come forward if they still have any questions.
I do know, through conversations from the Residential Tenancies team, that they have also spoken with tenants to make sure that they know what their rights are. I do know, through the team, that some of those tenants were able to reach out to the landlord directly to be able to find a resolution.
Again, if any tenant in the province has a question, come forward to our team. Ask your question, because we can find a resolution through mediation, and if it has to go through a hearing, that is the process to bring forward concerns. I would encourage Nova Scotians to have the right and accurate information.
SUZY HANSEN « » : With all due respect, the minister was aware of the concerns, and the RTA was also aware. Here we are at the end of the month, and these folks are going to have to pay full rent for a unit that was unlivable. Instead of helping renters at The Scotian, this government passed the buck to the Residential Tenancies system, a slow-moving system that is toothless because this government refuses to create an enforcement unit that everyone agreed upon.
When will renters at The Scotian get the rent back that they deserve for living without power for more than two weeks?
JILL BALSER « » : Again, I want to encourage the tenants of The Scotian to come forward with any concerns that they have, speak to the Residential Tenancies team, and put forward an application if that's what's needed. We can work together to find a resolution. That is the process. If any tenant in the province has a concern or a question, they can come forward and contact the Residential Tenancies team and find a positive resolution.
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THE SPEAKER « » : The honourable member for Timberlea-Prospect.
DPW: PROSPECT RD. TRAFFIC STUDY FINDINGS - RELEASE
HON. IAIN RANKIN « » : My question is for the Minister of Public Works. I ask this question on behalf of the 2,000-plus signatories along Prospect Road and all the residents there, not only because this is a major regional road of importance, but we have the increasing capacity of all of the HRM's compost going to that facility, increased industrial park there, and the major route that goes to the number one tourist destination in the province, Peggy's Cove.
I appreciate the minister coming out to take a tour with me with his chief engineer. The traffic study now admits that we do need significant improvements to create new major roads in and out of the Prospect Road communities. My question is: When will the minister release the findings of that traffic study?
HON. FRED TILLEY « » : I'm very pleased to answer the question from the member opposite. It was a pleasure to go out to visit with the member and the Probe Group on Prospect Road with Mark Peachey, chief engineer. We saw the concerns directly. As the member mentioned, the report has been released, and I believe it has been reviewed with the member and the members of Probe. It recommends a phased approach, and we are willing to work with the community to get some stuff done with it.
IAIN RANKIN « » : I appreciate the answer, and we want to continue to work on this issue not only because of the projected growth, but also because it is a safety concern. That's the primary reason. In the last two or three years, we are seeing increasing times where the road is completely shut down, and people have to go all the way around to your riding, Speaker, to get out. So we want to work on this. We want to see the study officially released. I want to request what everybody is asking for, which is to actually implement the findings of the study. When will the minister commit to the capital and five-year plan to build a new entrance and exit out of the Prospect Road communities? When will they be not road-blockers? (Laughter)
THE SPEAKER « » : Even I need a second to laugh for that one.
The honourable Minister of Public Works.
FRED TILLEY « » : I would be remiss if I did not talk about all the building that is going on in Nova Scotia this year: $500 million in road work, three years of 100-series paving in a one-year span. Specifically, to the member's question, the study recommends a phased-in approach. We are going to do that. Immediately, we are looking at the intersection access of Prospect Bay Road and optimizing the signal timing at St. Margaret's Bay Road. These are short-term initiatives that we can do right away, and there are long-term objectives like a new entrance at Highway No. 103. We are working on that in our planning processes.
THE SPEAKER « » : The honourable member for Sackville-Cobequid.
LSI: OT PAY FOR LONG HOURS WORKED - PROVIDE
PAUL WOZNEY « » : Overtime pay kicks in at 40 hours in the majority of Canadian jurisdictions, including B.C., Saskatchewan, Manitoba, and Newfoundland and Labrador. Our make-it-happen Premier has boldly proclaimed in this House, "If it's good enough for another province, then it is good enough for Nova Scotia." Here in Nova Scotia, you have to work 48 hours before you make a dime of overtime pay. This government is fond of saying that the best social program is a job. So why do they make it harder for Nova Scotians who work long hours to get ahead?
HON. NOLAN YOUNG « » : We are working hard to keep the working conditions in Nova Scotia that are fair, that are stable. We are always evaluating what is happening in other jurisdictions, and we will continue to monitor that.
PAUL WOZNEY « » : The fact is this province has some of the most egregious overtime pay loopholes in the country. At a time when this minister stands on a record of prioritizing construction workers in immigration, some workers in Nova Scotia - like construction workers - don't even get overtime until they work more than 110 hours over a two-week period.
When will the Minister of Labour admit that these labour code loopholes show a profound lack of respect for the hard-working Nova Scotians we rely on to build up this province?
NOLAN YOUNG « » : I'll remind the member over there that I am a construction worker as well. Again, we're always evaluating, always looking at the landscape and doing jurisdictional scans and seeing what's out there. We'll continue to evaluate.
THE SPEAKER « » : The honourable member for Cape Breton Centre-Whitney Pier.
ECC: COASTAL PROTEC. ACT FOR MUNICIPALITIES - EXPLAIN
KENDRA COOMBES « » : This government scrapped the Coastal Protection Act and dumped responsibility onto municipalities, even though towns and counties have no authority over many infill and rock wall projects. The Ecology Action Centre describes what's happening to our coastlines as "death by 1,000 cuts," and I'll table that. Can the Minister of Environment and Climate Change tell us why this government is leaving municipalities to clean up the Province's mess?
HON. TIMOTHY HALMAN « » : Coastal action is a shared responsibility. We have a very comprehensive, strong Coastal Action Plan; 10 out of those 15 actions in the action plan have been implemented.
One of the key things that has been implemented is working with our municipalities to develop the example bylaws, along with providing funds to the Nova Scotia Federation of Municipalities so they have access to the experts, so municipalities are able to develop these example bylaws. We believe the approach of informed decision-making is the best path to take in working with our municipalities. We are encouraging the municipalities, do not let your residents build in unsafe areas.
KENDRA COOMBES « » : An Act is stronger than a plan. Municipal leaders say they don't have the resources or the tools to stop harmful infill projects, even when the residents are pleading for action. Yet this government shrugs off its duties and tells them to figure it out themselves. Will the minister admit that off-loading coastal protection to municipalities is nothing more than abandoning our coastlines to unchecked development?
TIMOTHY HALMAN « » : I categorically reject the assertion of that member with respect to us abandoning anything. Rather, we're moving forward working with our municipalities. Just last April, with CBRM Mayor Cecil Clarke, we announced the example bylaws. We are partnering with our municipalities through the Nova Scotia Federation of Municipalities.
We trust Nova Scotians to make an informed decision. We recognize our municipalities are the lead in developing the bylaws to ensure residents do not build in unsafe areas. We have deployed resources immediately to ensure residents do not build in unsafe areas. We'll continue to implement the Action Plan, and we'll continue to support informed decision-making.
THE SPEAKER « » : The honourable member for Halifax Chebucto.
EECD: OXFORD SCH. OVERCROWDING - FIX
KRISTA GALLAGHER « » : I've heard from families in my riding about overcrowding at the Oxford School. Because the gymnasium is at capacity or over capacity, some students are going to gym class in a cramped classroom in the basement without so much as a basketball hoop.
My question is: What is the minister doing to fix this situation at Oxford School?
HON. BRENDAN MAGUIRE » : I want to thank the member for bringing this question forward. We'll reach out to the Halifax Regional Centre for Education who oversees class sizes and the management of the schools. What I can tell you this government is investing over a billion dollars in five years on new schools, and we'll continue to invest in schools right across this province.
KRISTA GALLAGHER « » : There's been a lot of growth in my constituency with new buildings under construction. Meanwhile, Oxford School is already bursting at the seams. We need new schools sooner rather than later, but the delays with the new building for SJAM have showed how long that can take.
Parents want to know: Does this government have a plan to ensure that Oxford School will be ready to accommodate the future students who really need it?
BRENDAN MAGUIRE « » : The truth is that there is a process here. I would encourage the staff and the principal at Oxford School to reach out to the RCEs and have it put on a list. We'll do an evaluation of the school to see what kind of shape it's in. We'll move forward with the community and the MLA on the future of Oxford School.
THE SPEAKER « » : The honourable member for Cumberland North.
DPW: CHIGNECTO ISTHMUS INFRASTRUCTURE - PROTECT
ELIZABETH SMITH-MCCROSSIN « » : Speaker, back to the Chignecto Isthmus. This is hurricane season. Here in Nova Scotia, we have experienced Hurricane Dorian and Hurricane Fiona in recent years. We know that the Chignecto Isthmus protects critical infrastructure for electrical utilities, communications, telecommunications, the Trans-Canada Highway, and our railway. If it floods - which it is predicted to do - and if our supply chain breaks, Nova Scotia is in for economic catastrophe. We need to get the work done.
I'm wondering if the minister can tell us today what the timeline is currently. Are we looking at being done in 10 years? In 15 years? What is the current timeline?
HON. FRED TILLEY « » : The member keeps asserting that nothing is being at the Chignecto Isthmus. There is plenty being done at the isthmus. We understand the importance of the isthmus.
ELIZABETH SMITH-MCCROSSIN « » : It's very concerning that now this is my second question and we've had no commitment from the minister of what the timeline is. What is the actual timeline?
I believe we need more transparency and accountability on this very important project for the people of Cumberland County and for all Nova Scotians. I believe there should be a website. There should be quarterly updates. There should be milestones. This should be taken seriously. There should be proper project management on the Chignecto Isthmus project, with clear timelines and accountability and also on the tendering processes.
Once again, my question is: What is the timeline and when is it predicted to be completed?
FRED TILLEY « » : As I indicated earlier, there's a video. The video explains everything that's happening at the isthmus right now.
Speaker, we're working hard, and we would encourage the member to share that view. What we will commit to is maybe we'll do quarterly videos to update the member.
THE SPEAKER « » : The honourable member for Sackville-Cobequid.
LSI: ECON REG. REFORM WORKERS IGNORED - EXPLAIN
PAUL WOZNEY « » : Yesterday this government loudly promised regulatory reform to support the economy, saying that the way things are just isn't working. Workers in Nova Scotia could not agree more.
Recent labour board cases involving workers at Global Empire Corporation and Arbuckle Media show that our Labour Standards Code is outdated and makes it hard for workers to collect wages they have rightfully earned.
If this government is acting quickly to help businesses, why is it ignoring workers unprotected from predatory employers?
HON. NOLAN YOUNG « » : I can't speak about specifics here on the floor on any specific case. We are working hard for workers. We are out there. We are doing things.
I'll leave it at that. (Laughter)
PAUL WOZNEY « » : I guess governmenting is hard.
The fact is that our current legislation means workers are getting robbed. Despite the Labour Board ruling in their favour, dozens of people are out thousands of dollars in wages due to legislation that has been unchanged for five years under this government's watch, despite its deficiencies. The government is moving to support businesses, as it should, but workers need protection from wage theft, and their calls have gone ignored. When will this government update one of the weakest labour standards codes in the country to ensure workers actually get paid for the work that they've done?
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NOLAN YOUNG « » : We are looking out for workers. We are evaluating. We are looking at other jurisdictions and stuff. If the member was so concerned about workers, why did he vote against the minimum wage increase?
THE SPEAKER « » : The honourable member for Dartmouth North.
DOE - IND. CARBON TAX: RATEPAYERS - PROTECT
SUSAN LEBLANC « » : Under this government, power bills for the average family have increased by $400, and with another 8 percent rate hike coming, power bills are about to get even more expensive. This government has also allowed Nova Scotia Power to pass the cost of the industrial carbon tax to ratepayers through the fuel adjustment mechanism. This is a tax that's meant to be paid by industrial polluters, not the people of Nova Scotia.
When will this government ensure that Nova Scotia Power can't pass the cost of the industrial carbon tax onto ratepayers?
HON. TREVOR BOUDREAU « » : We've taken extraordinary measures as a government to ensure that Nova Scotians and ratepayers are always at the front of mind. I can think of the $117-million financing that we made to buy the fuel adjustment mechanism. That prevented a 7 percent increase in rates for ratepayers. I can think of the $500-million loan guarantee that we helped negotiate that prevented a 19 percent increase in rates. The facts matter. We prevented a number of different rate increases, and we'll continue to do what we can for Nova Scotians.
SUSAN LEBLANC « » : The minister can give us the laundry list of what has been happening, but the fact is, people's power rates continue to skyrocket and Nova Scotians are seeing increases of over $400 since this government took power. Something is not working.
In 2022, an Associate Deputy Minister of Environment and Climate Change indicated to the Halifax Examiner that the federal industrial carbon tax would raise power bills by 7 percent over three years because it is allowed to be passed on. When this government passed legislation in 2022 to cap power rates, they didn't cap those rate hikes. Will this government today commit to protecting Nova Scotians and make Nova Scotia Power pay their own taxes?
TREVOR BOUDREAU « » : We know affordability is top of mind of Nova Scotians, and it's top of mind of this government as well. I can think of the $500 million in tax savings that we've put on for Nova Scotians. That's not just for one year; that's for continuation of every year - the proposed $150-million one-time to help savings for Nova Scotians. I don't know about your math, but $500 million is a lot more than $150 million.
THE SPEAKER « » : The honourable member for Sackville-Cobequid.
EECD - SCHOOL LUNCH PROG.:
CELIAC STUDENTS EXCLUSION - EXPLAIN
PAUL WOZNEY « » : I wrote to the Minister of Education and Early Childhood Development earlier this month and never got a response, so I'll try it here. An eight-year-old student at a school in my constituency has celiac disease. Because the school food program doesn't provide safe gluten-free meals, students with celiac disease are forced to go without. I'm wondering if the minister can explain why children with celiac disease are excluded from a program that's supposed to be universal.
HON. BRENDAN MAGUIRE « » : I want to thank you for the question, it gives me a moment to talk about the great success of the Nova Scotia School Lunch Program, which they voted against, which has served 4.7 million meals right across Nova Scotia. We're going to continue to roll out. We spent the last summer listening to children, adjusting the menu, and we'll continue to do that. I encourage the members to look at the new menu, including the chicken nuggets. (Interruption)
THE SPEAKER « » : Order. Order, please. Order.
The time allotted for Oral Questions Put by Members to Ministers has expired.
GOVERNMENT BUSINESS
THE SPEAKER « » : The honourable Minister of Agriculture.
HON. GREG MORROW » : Speaker, I beg leave to make an introduction.
THE SPEAKER « » : Please do.
GREG MORROW « » : Yes, the boss is in the House - my daughter Kate is the boss - and my wife, Suzanne.
I do want to mention a couple of things about my daughter, Kate, while she's here. She is in her final year at East Antigonish Academy, in Grade 12. She's already accepted into StFX in Antigonish and wants to study medicine. She's a solutionist, and she is here this weekend for the Maritime Major Girls Hockey League Showcase that is happening at the Dauphinee Centre on the campus of Saint Mary's University. All the top teams from across the Maritimes are here.
It is her final year with the Northern Selects and final year of minor hockey. I had the tremendous privilege of coaching for many of those years. Since she started, we've seen tremendous growth in female hockey in that time. She is part of a group of young female hockey players that has ensured that girls starting out today no longer have to see themselves as female hockey players. They see themselves simply as hockey players. (Applause)
THE SPEAKER « » : Welcome to the House. Congratulations and good luck. I know you got this.
The honourable member for Yarmouth.
NICK HILTON « » : Speaker, I beg leave to make an introduction.
THE SPEAKER « » : Please do.
NICK HILTON « » : In the gallery today, I have with me Dawn Cleary. Dawn is a resident of Yarmouth and one of the most kind and caring people you will ever meet. Only knowing me a few days, Dawn spent the entire month of November in a van, on some very cold days, campaigning. I just want to thank Dawn personally and welcome her to the House. (Applause)
THE SPEAKER « » : Welcome. Welcome to the House, and we hope you enjoy your time here.
THE SPEAKER « » : The honourable Deputy Government House Leader.
MELISSA SHEEHY RICHARD: Speaker, would you please call the order of business Public Bills and Orders.
PUBLIC BILLS AND ORDERS
MELISSA SHEEHY RICHARD: Speaker, would you please call the order of business Public Bills for Second Reading.
PUBLIC BILLS FOR SECOND READING
THE SPEAKER « » : The honourable Deputy House Leader.
MELISSA SHEEHY RICHARD: Speaker, would you please call Bill No. 141.
Bill No. 141 - Municipal Modernization (2025) Act.
THE SPEAKER « » : The honourable Minister of Municipal Affairs.
HON. JOHN LOHR « » : Speaker, I move that Bill No. 141 be now read for a second time.
I do have a few words to say about it, but I am interested in hearing the comments of my colleagues in the House. I will listen to their comments and make some comments after I hear their comments. I look forward to debate on this bill.
THE SPEAKER « » : The honourable member for Cape Breton Centre-Whitney Pier.
KENDRA COOMBES « » : I was hoping the minister might explain more before opening up the debate about this bill. I had some time, since getting this bill yesterday, to talk with some of my municipal colleagues in CBRM to see if they knew anything about this and could provide further information, and they were surprised by this bill as much as I was.
In my reading of the bill, I feel like there are some significant red flags here. The bill is just another example of this government pushing aside municipalities, from what I've read, and it is a clear intrusion on their jurisdiction. Of course, this isn't the first time that we have seen this kind of overreach.
Municipalities were not pleased when this government introduced Bill No. 24 in the spring. This government gave themselves order-making power over municipal infrastructure. We've seen this come up in an issue already. Municipalities are now worried that they can't make decisions about their communities, even though that is what they were elected to do.
I'm sure this government wouldn't be pleased if a higher level of government, say the federal, took decision-making powers away from them on significant projects. I think if the shoe was on the other foot it would be a different story. They would probably be pretty upset and that's reasonable, because we are elected by the people to do a job. You could argue that this bill, like Bill No. 24 before it, gets in the way of the job of a municipal council.
This bill raises the significant issue of transportation in Nova Scotia. It's still hard for people to get around, and too expensive. That's because this government has failed to invest in transportation solutions people need. For years, advocates have been calling for updates, but they have not gotten the support to make it happen. There have been no significant updates in transportation despite our growing population. People need new and better options to get around.
The best way to get them through is through collaboration between the Province and the municipalities. Nova Scotians are not best served by this government's overreach, but they are best served by collaboration. This government says that the bill is necessary to improve transportation in the province. I'm not sure if that's true but I would like to hear feedback about this.
We need to hear from municipalities, councillors, wardens, and mayors about how this bill will impact their work. We need to hear from the business community about what kind of uncertainty this creates. Uncertainty isn't good for business. We need to hear from transportation advocates about how this will impact the significant transportation projects we need.
Nova Scotians want all levels of government to work collaboratively on projects that matter to them. Projects that will make their lives better. This will make their cities, and all of Nova Scotia, a great place for families, businesses, and communities to grow. I look forward to hearing the feedback about this bill when it comes before Public Bills, and I look forward to hearing comments from the minister with regards to the rationale for this bill.
THE SPEAKER « » : The honourable member for Timberlea-Prospect.
HON. IAIN RANKIN « » : There's a number of parts to the bill that speak to different things, and there's some pretty good stuff in there. I'll start with what my former colleague, Ben Jessome, was asking for assiduously in the House, where he asked for the tax relief for the dwellings that have been destroyed by natural disasters. I think that we have broad support for that in the House. I guess I would say it's about time that we see that coming through and commend the government for following through on that.
The issues around the Transportation Corridor Control Act and looking at transportation corridor lands, I am cautiously supportive of looking at that to expedite ways that we can build around major corridor routes. I can't speak against something that may facilitate some of the things that I'd like to see in and around the Prospect communities in terms of new major access roads. So, if used properly and respectfully of constituents and landowners and the environment, I think that could be a powerful tool to get things built.
We're going to watch what the Nova Scotians say at Public Bills, and see what issues they have with some of that, then we'll have further to say in future readings.
THE SPEAKER « » : If I recognize the minister it will be to close the debate.
The honourable Minister of Municipal Affairs.
HON. JOHN LOHR « » : I appreciate the comments from my colleagues in the House. I will be reviewing them, as my staff will, in terms of the content. I can assure the members of this House that our municipal partners remain very important to us. As a department, we are constantly in conversation with them.
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There are a number of different elements in this bill. I just want to highlight a couple. We're giving municipalities the power, in the case of a natural disaster - which we are not defining, municipalities will be able to define that - to reduce taxes when homes are lost rather than having a one-off bill, which we had a year ago for the victims of the fires in the Tantallon and Shelburne areas. I think that's important.
We're modernizing processes. We're giving municipalities the ability to accept electronic payments of tax sales. We're making changes recommended in the Municipal Elections Act, for example the voting day. Currently, if you turn 18 on the first day of voting, you can vote, but if you miss that day, the normal voting day, you have missed your opportunity. We're changing that to parallel other rules for other levels of government elections.
If you wish to have your name removed or obscured from the total public voting list, we're enabling that. It has to be done on request. This is a recommendation from the Mass Casualty Commission and our gender-based violence work that this ability be there for some people who may request that. We're enabling that.
We have included some things to clarify the rules around special planning areas and the minister's responsibility and rules.
Obviously, the Transportation Corridor Control Act is an important Act, which is really part of the work of Link Nova Scotia. As we see a growing province, we know there will be more demands on transportation in the future. We believe this province will grow. We're optimistic about growth in the province. We're trying to enable that.
A couple more things: Cogswell District Energy, at the request of HRM, we're enabling increased participation in that. Finally, we are working to speed up critical child care facilities in Nova Scotia. Currently, the province has a number of child care facilities. If we build a child care facility, it is exempt from municipal bylaws. We're creating that exemption for other child care facilities, much like we did for health care facilities last year to enable child care facilities to be built quicker.
With those few words, I move second reading of Bill No. 141.
THE SPEAKER « » : The motion is for second reading of Bill No. 141.
All those in favour? Contrary minded? Thank you.
The motion is carried.
Ordered that this bill be referred to the Standing Committee on Public Bills.
The honourable Deputy Government House Leader.
MELISSA SHEEHY-RICHARD » : Speaker, would you please call Bill No. 144.
Bill No. 144 - Workers' Compensation Act (amended).
THE SPEAKER « » : The honourable Minister of Labour, Skills and Immigration.
HON. NOLAN YOUNG « » : Speaker, I move that Bill No. 144 be read a second time.
I want to thank the many Nova Scotians whose input helped shape this bill: the workers, the employers, and the stakeholders across this province. This bill includes practical changes that will make workers' compensation fairer and stronger for everyone.
I look forward to hearing from my colleagues on this important legislation.
THE SPEAKER « » : The honourable member for Sackville-Cobequid.
PAUL WOZNEY « » : Speaker, I rise to discuss Bill No. 144 updating the Workers' Compensation Act. I want to acknowledge off the top that this bill contains some positive and much-needed changes for workers. Modernizing the workers' compensation program in Nova Scotia is long overdue, and it's something that the NDP caucus has been calling for for many years.
I want to focus first on what we view as net positives as a result of this legislation. A positive change contained in this bill is an update to benefit rates. Indexing WCB benefits to inflation is unquestionably the right thing to do, and we applaud this aspect of the bill. For decades Nova Scotia has been the only province where rates were indexed to half of inflation. That has gone on for far too long. Workers and families deserve benefits that allow them to get by and keep up with the cost of living. Not indexing these benefits to inflation meant that benefits effectively were cut year after year. It's past time for this change to be implemented. I wish the government were making this effective immediately.
Implementation of these changes will be delayed until 2027. At a time when we are very deeply concerned on both sides of this House about affordability, I would urge the government to look at making these changes effective immediately so that relief for families on benefits takes immediate effect.
I also want to recognize that we are seeing Department of Natural Resources firefighters finally receiving benefits they deserve. I think we all recognize that the important contribution and the role of the DNR firefighters have been on full display with the ongoing Long Lake fire this summer. We know that as a major fire threatened the safety of Nova Scotians in the Annapolis Valley region, the DNR firefighters were on the front lines. All of us stand behind them and thank them for their impressive work, not only at Long Lake but in other locations across the province this summer. Their efforts played a major role in helping save many homes and keep danger at bay.
As they continue to work on the Long Lake fire, digging in for the long term, I'm very encouraged to know, as is my entire caucus, that they will soon have access to protections they have long deserved.
I do want to draw the attention of the House to some improvements that remain outstanding. New Democrats have been listening to workers and their concerns about the Workers' Compensation Board of Nova Scotia and program for many years. The long-overdue report on the WCB in 2024 showed just how far behind Nova Scotia has been with respect to other provinces. We have the lowest coverage rate in the country.
There remain 110,000 workers in this province who could be covered by the WCB but continue to go without that protection and coverage. It's a significant issue for one out of 10 Nova Scotians working in this province.
Workplace protections under the WCB are vitally important. This government should act to extend protections to these folks as soon as possible. The NDP will continue to fight alongside workers without access to these benefits, until we see that protection realized.
One thing I want to raise as a necessary amendment; I don't think this miss is intentional, but I do want to flag it here formally as part of debate. The legislation as proposed aims to remove Clause 32. Clause 32, being removed, contains a requirement for hospitals that treat a worker injured in a workplace event, to report the death of such a worker to the Nova Scotia Labour Board.
I heard in the bill briefing that the employer of the deceased worker has a duty to report. My concern lies in that duty not being enshrined in legislation. In Nova Scotia we passed the Westray Bill 21 years ago. It was hailed as a major advance in protecting workers at a time when Nova Scotia had an abysmal rate of workplace deaths. While that bill is an important piece of protection for Nova Scotian workers, I draw to the attention of the House that 21 years later we still have not successfully prosecuted a single workplace death for Nova Scotians since that time.
My concern is if we absolve hospitals of a duty to report the death of a worker, if there is no legal requirement for employers to have to report the work to the Labour Board, we may not see employers who have had workers die on the job under their watch who may be very well culpable in those deaths. They may not act swiftly or decisively in a timely way to report those deaths to the Labour Board and give themselves an unfair advantage in preparing a legal defence should they be charged under the Westray Bill.
This is one piece of the legislation that I have concern about on behalf of Nova Scotian workers. I think government should be acting to strengthen protections for workers and make sure that employers who bear responsibility for the death of their employees in the workplace are held to legal account when that occurs.
With that, I don't want to leave this on a note. I do want to reiterate that we welcome many of the changes that are contained in this legislation. We certainly have had conversation with folks in leadership on the board of the workers' compensation program. We know that they stand behind and support these changes. On the whole, we view this as positive, but we do want to raise this one matter. We think this deletion leaves open a loophole which could be exploited by employers to the detriment of protection of workers.
We look forward, as this bill moves forward through the legislative process of the House, to the opportunity to collaborate with the government on closing this loophole and being able to celebrate an overall positive slate of changes for the workers of Nova Scotia.
THE SPEAKER « » : The honourable member for Timberlea-Prospect.
HON. IAIN RANKIN « » : We support the bill. Currently, Nova Scotia has the unenviable position of having the highest WCB premiums in the country while also having some of the worst service. This has been a challenge for decades in our province. It was such a massive, underfunded liability that successive governments had to come to grapple with and try to deal with the financial restraints within the organization. When we see the adjusting of benefits going up to keep up with inflation, helping workers on the job, that's a positive thing.
We're also obviously glad to see an extension to DNR firefighters for presumptive cancer coverage. That follows along some of the other adjustments that have been made over the years for the previous firefighters and for things like PTSD presumptive coverage that happened under the McNeil government. This is a continuation, I think, of some positive movement. We need to continue to work on making sure that we improve the financial footing of the organization and ensuring that employers have fair premiums and that we continue to expand coverage where it's needed for Nova Scotians to be able to go to work and feel safe in their workplace. With that, we'll support the bill and look forward to comments at Public Bills.
THE SPEAKER « » : If I recognize the minister it will be to close the debate.
The honourable Minister of Labour, Skills and Immigration.
HON. NOLAN YOUNG « » : I'd like to thank our colleagues for their feedback, their input, and their support for this bill. This is a good bill for workers. I'll have more to say after Public Bills. With that, I rise to close debate on Bill No. 144.
THE SPEAKER « » : The motion is for second reading of Bill No. 144.
All those in favour? Contrary minded? Thank you.
The motion is carried.
Ordered that the bill be referred to the Standing Committee on Public Bills.
The honourable Deputy House Leader.
MELISSA SHEEHY-RICHARD « » : Speaker, this concludes government business for today. I move that the House do now rise to meet again on Monday, September 29th, between the hours of 4:00 p.m. and 7:00 p.m. Following daily routine, government business will include second reading.
THE SPEAKER « » : The motion is that the House rise to meet again on September 29th between the hours of 4:00 p.m. and 7:00 p.m.
All those in favour? Contrary minded? Thank you.
The motion is carried.
We stand adjourned.
[The House rose at 11:14 a.m.]
NOTICES OF MOTION UNDER RULE 32(3)
RESOLUTION NO. 219
By: Claudia Chender (Dartmouth South)
I hereby give notice that on a future day I shall move the adoption of the following resolution:
Whereas Nova Scotia is in the midst of a housing crisis that has left people struggling with rising rents, unaffordable homes, growing homelessness, and deepening housing insecurity; and
Whereas under this government's watch, average rent across Nova Scotia has increased by an average of $4,400 per year, homelessness has nearly doubled in Halifax and nearly tripled in the western region of the province, and the cost relative to income of buying a home has nearly doubled; and
Whereas rather than take action to address housing insecurity by removing the financial incentive for fixed-term leases, this government has consistently shown that their first priority is to put the interests of landlords first by failing to establish a residential tenancies enforcement unit and actively stripping tenants who live in shared accommodations with their landlords from their rights;
Therefore be it resolved that there is a housing crisis in Nova Scotia that gives rise to an urgent need for stronger protections for tenants and meaningful action on housing affordability.
RESOLUTION NO. 220
By: Claudia Chender (Dartmouth South)
I hereby give notice that on a future day I shall move the adoption of the following resolution:
Whereas the duty to consult Indigenous peoples is a constitutional obligation, grounded in Section 35 of the Constitution Act, 1982, and has been affirmed by the Supreme Court of Canada in Haida Nation v. British Columbia (2004) and subsequent decision; and
Whereas the Mi'kmaq are the original inhabitants of Mi'kma'ki, which includes the land and water of Nova Scotia, and hold constitutionally protected Aboriginal and Treaty rights; and
Whereas significant natural resource projects in Nova Scotia may affect those rights and interests, requiring meaningful consultation and, where appropriate, accommodation;
Therefore be it resolved that it is important to uphold the legal duty to consult Indigenous communities on significant natural resource projects, and to ensure that consultation processes are timely, transparent, respectful, and consistent with the honour of the Crown.