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HALIFAX, THURSDAY, OCTOBER 2, 2025

Sixty-fifth General Assembly

First Session

12:08 P.M.

SPEAKER

Hon. Danielle Barkhouse

DEPUTY SPEAKERS

John White, Marco MacLeod, Tom Taggart

THE SPEAKER » : I ask that all members - and members of the gallery, if they are able - to stand for the playing of "O Canada."

[The national anthem was played.]

You may be seated.

THE SPEAKER « » : Order. Before we start the daily routine, I am begging leave of the MLAs to do an introduction. I would like to introduce the fantastic Association of Nigerians in Nova Scotia. If you could please stand and accept the warm welcome of the House. Welcome. (Standing Ovation)

Thank you, colleagues, and thank you for coming. We hope you enjoy your time here.

PRESENTING AND READING PETITIONS

THE SPEAKER « » : The honourable member for Halifax Needham.

SUZY HANSEN « » : Speaker, I beg leave to table a petition with the operative clauses stating:

Whereas a new school was promised to the SJAM community 6 years ago, and still has not been delivered/completed; and

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Whereas the SJAM students have been bussed to another school outside of their community, being disconnected from their home school area for four consecutive years; and

Whereas the SJAM community is home to a large number of visible minorities and marginalized students, who have been waiting far too long, with delay after delay for their school to be built;

Be it resolved we the undersigned demand the Minister of Education and the Minister of Public Works prioritize the SJAM school build, provide weekly timelines for the completion of the new school to the SJAM Community/Families, urge both departments to take the necessary steps to prioritize the SJAM build with out further delay, and provide an update by the next sitting of the Nova Scotia legislature.

I have a number of signatures on this particular petition from Halifax Needham, and I have affixed my signature as per the Rules of the House.

THE SPEAKER « » : The petition is tabled.

PRESENTING REPORTS OF COMMITTEES

THE SPEAKER « » : The honourable member for Hants West.

MELISSA SHEEHY-RICHARD « » : Speaker, on behalf of the Standing Committee on Veterans Affairs, I'm pleased to submit the annual report of the committee for the period of April to May 2025 of the 65^th General Assembly.

THE SPEAKER « » : The report is tabled.

The honourable member for Lunenburg.

HON. SUSAN CORKUM-GREEK « » : Speaker, on behalf of the Standing Committee on Community Services, I am pleased to submit the annual report of the committee for the period from February to June 2025 of the 65^th General Assembly.

THE SPEAKER « » : The report is tabled.

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TABLING REPORTS, REGULATIONS AND OTHER PAPERS

THE SPEAKER « » : The honourable Minister of Addictions and Mental Health.

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HON. BRIAN COMER « » : Speaker, I beg leave to table the Review Board Under the Involuntary Psychiatric Treatment Act Annual Report - April 1, 2024 to March 31, 2025.

THE SPEAKER « » : The report is tabled.

The honourable Minister of Public Works.

HON. FRED TILLEY « » : Speaker, pursuant to Section 12 of the Surplus Crown Property Disposal Act, I beg leave to table the report on the disposal of surplus crown property for the period of April 1, 2024 to March 31, 2025.

THE SPEAKER « » : The report is tabled.

STATEMENTS BY MINISTERS

GOVERNMENT NOTICES OF MOTION

THE SPEAKER « » : The honourable Minister of Environment and Climate Change.

HON. TIMOTHY HALMAN « » : Speaker, I beg permission to make an introduction.

THE SPEAKER « » : Please do.

TIMOTHY HALMAN « » : Speaker, in your gallery it is a special honour for me to recognize the presence of an inspiring young Nova Scotian, Darsh Sinha, a Grade 7 student at Saint Mary's Elementary School. Darsh is the CEO of Dragon Breath, a youth-led organization dedicated to collecting used toys and reselling them, with the goal of fostering a circular economy that gives back to his community.

Darsh is joined today by his proud parents, Ketan Sinha and Shubhra Singh. I invite them to rise and please receive the warm welcome of the House. (Applause)

THE SPEAKER « » : Welcome to the House. We hope you enjoy your time here.

The honourable Minister of Environment and Climate Change.

RESOLUTION NO. 229

HON. TIMOTHY HALMAN « » : Speaker, I hereby give notice that on a future day I shall move the adoption of the following resolution:

Whereas a strong circular economy keeps waste out of our landfills, drives innovation, reduces carbon emissions and creates jobs, making it a win-win for our environment and our economy; and

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Whereas Darsh Sinha, a Grade 7 student at Saint Mary's Elementary School has shown remarkable entrepreneurial spirit by creating his own business, Dragon Breath, that collects used toys and resells then with the goal of building a circular economy that benefits his community; and

Whereas through his efforts Darsh is helping to reduce waste, keep toys out of landfills and preserve Nova Scotia's natural environment for future generations;

Therefore be it resolved that Nova Scotians join me in recognizing Darsh Sinha, whose leadership, innovation and commitment to sustainability are inspiring at such a young age and whose work is advancing our transition to a circular economy.

Speaker, I request waiver of notice and passage without debate.

THE SPEAKER « » : There has been a request for waiver.

Is it agreed?

It is agreed.

All those in favour? Contrary minded? Thank you.

The motion is carried.

The honourable Minister of Growth and Development.

HON. COLTON LEBLANC « » : Speaker, I beg leave to make a few introductions.

THE SPEAKER « » : Please.

COLTON LEBLANC « » : I am honoured to introduce a number of our Nova Scotia Loyal businesses. Some guests who are joining us in the gallery today are: Scott Harrigan, who is the co-owner of The Candied Jalapeno Company in Middle Sackville - I suggested to him I might have to have a burger night this weekend with some of his products; Anthony Winston III, who is President of Worry-Free Food in Enfield, who makes a waffle and pancake mix free of 14 allergens; we have Suzy Belt, a co-owner of Seafoam Lavender Company & Gardens in River John, a family owned company that makes soaps and skin products with some of their homegrown lavender; Tracy Hutchings is co-owner of Go West Homestead in Merigomish, he does some micro-greens year round in the sun; and finally from the beautiful constituency of Argyle, we've got Dan D'Eon, who is the co-owner of D'Eons Bakery, who makes petty good rappie pie, as well as some delicious plum sauce, which is not an Acadian traditional product.

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I am happy to have them here. I ask them to all rise to receive the warm welcome of the House. (Applause)

THE SPEAKER « » : Welcome to the House, we hope you enjoy your time here.

The honourable Minister of Growth and Development.

RESOLUTION NO. 230

HON. COLTON LEBLANC « » : Speaker, I hereby give notice that on a future day I shall move the adoption of the following resolution:

Whereas Nova Scotia Loyal provides supports to Nova Scotia producers and retailers, making it easier for consumers, businesses, and institutions to look for and choose local products in their everyday shopping; and

Whereas Nova Scotia Loyal has grown to a new milestone, proudly reaching a network of over 1,500 registered partner businesses in the program; and

Whereas Nova Scotian businesses produce an almost endless list of high-quality, competitively priced everyday goods that can be easily substituted for non-local brands, and don't just make the products we need but also contribute to our communities through employment and by supporting non-profits, sports teams, the arts, and community programming;

Therefore be it resolved that all members of the House of Assembly join me in acknowledging this significant program milestone, thanking all of our local producers and retailers, and joining the growing Nova Scotia Loyal movement, and remember that now, more than ever, we need to do all that we can to support our neighbours, communities, and province. Buying local is a simple, highly impactful way to put our local businesses first and it echoes throughout the entire province.

Speaker, I request waiver of notice and passage without debate.

THE SPEAKER « » : There has been a request for waiver.

Is it agreed?

It is agreed.

All those in favour? Contrary minded? Thank you.

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The motion is carried.

The honourable Minister of Emergency Management.

RESOLUTION NO. 231

HON. KIM MASLAND « » : Speaker, I hereby give notice that on a future day I shall move the adoption of the following resolution:

Whereas the 2025 wildfire season has seen some of the largest responses in Nova Scotia's history and included multiple organizations, including volunteer fire departments, who stepped up to assist during these emergencies; and

Whereas these fire crews selflessly arrive at the scene of countless incidents throughout the year to contribute to response efforts and ensure the safety of Nova Scotians and properties; and

Whereas volunteer fire departments played a critical role in managing the Long Lake wildfire by helping protect upwards of 100 homes, cottages, and outbuildings through labour-intensive work like setting up sprinkler lines and hoses and hauling water to the areas that needed it, and supporting efforts to monitor and suppress hot spots;

Therefore be it resolved that all members of this House recognize the significant efforts and impact of Nova Scotia's volunteer fire departments over the 2025 wildfire season, who did not hesitate to aid communities in crisis.

Speaker, I request waiver of notice and passage without debate.

THE SPEAKER « » : There has been a request for waiver.

Is it agreed?

It is agreed.

All those in favour? Contrary minded? Thank you.

The motion is carried.

The honourable Minister of Fisheries and Aquaculture.

RESOLUTION NO. 232

HON. KENT SMITH « » : Speaker, I hereby give notice that on a future day I shall move the adoption of the following resolution:

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Whereas the Atkinson family of boatbuilders, based in Clark's Harbour, Nova Scotia, began their legacy in the early 1900s with Ephriam Atkinson building the first Cape Islander-style fishing boat; and

Whereas four generations of this family, including grandfather, father, uncles, and sons have carried on the boatbuilding tradition, sustaining maritime heritage and business in their community; and

Whereas in August, Greg Symonds, the fourth generation of this family, launched Grand Finale II as the last boat built by the Atkinson family, marking the conclusion of more than a century of craftsmanship;

Therefore be it resolved that all members of the House of Assembly recognize the Atkinson family for their dedication to the boatbuilding industry, as well as their service to the community, for preserving our maritime traditions.

Speaker, I request waiver of notice and passage without debate.

THE SPEAKER « » : There has been a request for waiver.

Is it agreed?

It is agreed.

All those in favour? Contrary minded? Thank you.

The motion is carried.

INTRODUCTION OF BILLS

THE SPEAKER « » : The honourable Deputy Premier.

HON. BARBARA ADAMS « » : Speaker, I beg leave to make some introductions related to my bill.

THE SPEAKER « » : Please do.

BARBARA ADAMS « » : In the Speaker's Gallery here today, we are privileged to have 13 heroes - representatives from the Canadian Armed Forces who are here with us today.

I know many of us in the Chamber know someone who is serving or who has served in the military. Some of us may have even served ourselves. That's how I know that everyone in this Chamber has the utmost respect for members of our Canadian Armed Forces. Military personnel and their families are such an important part of Nova Scotia's identity. We are so grateful for the sacrifices that they make every single day. They deserve our respect, they deserve our recognition, and I am so glad to welcome them all here today to the People's House to receive our warm welcome and thanks.

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I'm going to ask them to rise and remain standing as I read each of their names until we can recognize all of them at the same time: Commodore Jacob French, Captain (Navy) Annick Fortin, Colonel Tara Willis, Lieutenant-Colonel Greg Boone, Lieutenant (Navy) Jonathan Tallis, Lieutenant Jerome Downey, Chief Petty Officer 1^st Class Patrick Mackey, Chief Petty Officer 1^st Class Christine Thompson, Chief Warrant Officer Derek Stratton, Sergeant Shannon Young, Master Sailor Kevin LaFrance, Master Sailor Joey Power, and last but certainly not least - the father of my future and first grandson, along with his partner, Sarah - my son, Sergeant John Lavoie.

May we all welcome them to the Legislature. (Standing Ovation)

THE SPEAKER « » : Welcome to the House. We hope you enjoy your time here, and we all thank you for your service, both to the province and the country.

Bill No. 165 - An Act to Honour Members and Retired Members of the Canadian Armed Forces in Nova Scotia. (Hon. Tim Houston)

THE SPEAKER « » : The honourable Deputy Premier.

HON. BARBARA ADAMS « » : Speaker, I request unanimous consent for the questions for second and third reading to be put forthwith and for the bill to not be committed.

THE SPEAKER « » : There has been a request to waive second and third reading.

All those in favour? Contrary minded? Thank you.

The motion is carried.

PUBLIC BILLS FOR SECOND READING

THE SPEAKER « » : The honourable Deputy Premier.

HON. BARBARA ADAMS « » : I move that Bill No. 165 be read a second time.

THE SPEAKER « » : The motion is for second reading.

All those in favour? Contrary minded? Thank you.

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The motion is carried.

Ordered that the bill be read a third time forthwith.

PUBLIC BILLS FOR THIRD READING

THE SPEAKER « » : The honourable Deputy Premier.

HON. BARBARA ADAMS « » : I move that Bill No. 165 be read a third time and do pass.

THE SPEAKER « » : The motion is for third reading.

All those in favour? Contrary minded? Thank you.

The motion is carried.

Ordered that this bill do pass. Ordered that the title be as read by the Clerk. Ordered that the bill be engrossed.

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Are there any other bills? That's record timing, minister.

[INTRODUCTION OF BILLS]

Bill No. 166 - An Act Respecting Women's Health. (Elizabeth Smith-McCrossin)

Bill No. 167 - An Act to Make Child Care Affordable and Accessible (Claudia Chender)

Bill No. 168 - An Act to Ensure Safe Well Water and Indoor Air Quality for Residents near Mining Operations. (Hon. Iain Rankin)

Bill No. 169 - An Act to Amend Chapter 246 of the Revised Statutes, 1989, the Labour Standards Code. (Paul Wozney)

Bill No. 170 - An Act to Amend Chapter 7 of the Acts of 1996, the Occupational Health and Safety Act. (Paul Wozney)

Bill No. 171 - An Act Respecting a Strategy for the Provision of Long-term Care. (Rod Wilson)

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Bill No. 172 - An Act to Provide Accountability Respecting Emergency Department Closures. (Rod Wilson)

Bill No. 173 - An Act Respecting Funding for Municipal Public Transportation. (Kendra Coombes)

THE SPEAKER « » : Ordered that these bills be read a second time on a future day.

NOTICES OF MOTION

THE SPEAKER « » : The honourable member for Cumberland North.

RESOLUTION NO. 233

ELIZABETH SMITH-MCCROSSIN « » : Speaker, I hereby give notice that on a future day I shall move the adoption of the following resolution:

Whereas women across Nova Scotia are facing unacceptable delays in accessing essential health care including wait times of up to three and a half years to see a gynecologist and as long as five to six years for surgery; and

Whereas women living with complex conditions such as endometriosis are being forced to fundraise personally to travel out of the country for specialized treatment that is not available in this province; and

Whereas these systemic barriers demonstrate the urgent need for a coordinated and comprehensive approach to women's health that prioritizes access, specialized care, and equitable treatment across Nova Scotia;

Therefore be it resolved that immediately before the commencement of Government Business on the sitting day following the passage of this resolution, the House allot two hours to debate the issues of systemic bias and the urgent need to improve access to women's health services and the merits of establishing an office of women's health, a comprehensive women's health strategy.

Speaker, I request notice of passage and waiver without debate.

THE SPEAKER « » : There has been a request for waiver.

Is it agreed?

I hear several Noes.

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The notice is tabled.

STATEMENTS BY MEMBERS

THE SPEAKER « » : The honourable member for Dartmouth East.

HON. TIMOTHY HALMAN « » : Thank you, Speaker, permission to make an introduction?

THE SPEAKER « » : Please do.

TIMOTHY HALMAN « » : Speaker, in the West Gallery, I am pleased to introduce Dale Jollota and Tom Adams from the Olivia Jollota Memorial Trust. Dale and Tom, could you please stand and receive the warm welcome of the Nova Scotia House of Assembly. (Applause)

THE SPEAKER « » : Welcome. Welcome to the House. We hope you enjoy your time here.

The honourable member for Dartmouth East.

JOLLOTA, DALE: OLIVIA JOLLOTA MEM. TRUST - RECOG.

HON. TIMOTHY HALMAN « » : Speaker, I rise today to recognize the remarkable work of Dale Jollota through the Olivia Jollota Memorial Trust. In honour of her daughter, Olivia, Dale has dedicated herself to supporting causes close to Olivia's heart. The trust has contributed to community groups that support youth and animals while also providing direct assistance to local families.

Each year, Dale not only purchases school supplies herself but also collects generous donations from the community easing the burden on parents and helping ensure children are prepared for school. This year, through Olivia's trust, Dale is extending that spirit of giving even further by hosting a free family Christmas market ensuring families who may otherwise go without can celebrate the season.

Dale's compassion and generosity not only honours Olivia's memory but also uplifts and strengthens our community in countless ways. I am deeply grateful for her continued dedication and the inspiring example she sets for us all.

THE SPEAKER « » : The honourable member for Fairview-Clayton Park.

LINA HAMID « » : Speaker, I beg leave to make some introductions.

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THE SPEAKER « » : Please do.

LINA HAMID « » : If you're able to, please rise as I call your name.

Reham Eldadah is a mother and a pharmacist. For the past two years, she had to go about her daily life pretending that everything is normal while her family and friends suffer in Gaza. As a pharmacist, she has access to all sorts of life-saving medicines, and each day, she thinks about how her family can't even get Tylenol. She anxiously waits for news about her youngest brother and his two young children who have escaped devastation but are caught in limbo trying to reunite with her.

Fadil Elsheik made his home in Nova Scotia and has raised his five children here. Eight months ago, his brother died of a heart attack. It is possible that he could have been treated had the hospital not been attacked and the medical supplies been allowed into Gaza. His loss is all the more painful knowing that it could have been preventable.

Najlaa Alzaanin came to Canada in 2019 as a student and had not seen her family in those six years. Since the war began, she lives an unbearable life of losing her family in Gaza. Guilt consumes her when she eats; she thinks how her family is going hungry. When she lies in bed, she thinks of them sleeping on the ground. When she showers, she thinks of them without clean water.

Two nephews born during the war and had been hospitalized for malnutrition because food and formula is so scarce. Her mother and siblings survived the bombing and were pulled out of the rubble; other relatives and friends weren't so lucky.

Fadil, a Canadian-Palestinian, has lived in Canada for over 30 years. He has lost 94 family members in Gaza. Among them was a mother of three who was killed by a tank shell outside of a hospital. Her husband and daughter survived, though the eldest suffered a severe leg injury.

Khalil Elattar has lived here for 20 years, owns a business, and raises his five children here. On March 24^th, his cousin's house was bombed. His cousin survived, but his wife and five children were killed. The youngest was just three years old. All told, he has lost over 130 members of his family.

Sometimes war can feel far away, but these people are our neighbours and are suffering in our communities. We want you to know that we see you, and we care. (Standing Ovation)

THE SPEAKER « » : Unfortunately, I am the bad person in the room. Just a note to people - and a lot of people do it, but it just happened: Introductions are supposed to be quick. The member statement can have the meat and potatoes of it. I understand and appreciate, which is why I didn't interrupt in between, but going forward, introductions are to be, "I'd like to introduce," and the member statement is the information - is the body. (Interruption)

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I completely understand, which is why I didn't stop or interrupt you.

The honourable member for Sydney-Membertou.

HON. DEREK MOMBOURQUETTE « » : I beg leave to make an introduction before my member statement.

THE SPEAKER « » : Absolutely.

DEREK MOMBOURQUETTE « » : In the gallery opposite, I want to recognize someone I love and care about, a former colleague of mine, an MLA, who served this House well: the former member for Clayton Park West, Rafah DiCostanzo. (Applause)

THE SPEAKER « » : I saw you come in. Welcome. We hope you enjoy your time up there.

The honourable member for Sydney-Membertou.

DICOSTANZO, RAFAH - FORMER MLA: COMMITMENT - RECOG.

HON. DEREK MOMBOURQUETTE « » : I rise in my place to recognize a former colleague and friend, Rafah DiCostanzo, for her commitment to her community as the former MLA for Clayton Park West. She was a champion for her community and many of the initiatives that you see and the supports that Nova Scotians access each and every day. I rise in my place specifically to recognize her advocacy, not only while she was the MLA here in the Legislature but as an advocate for women in making sure that screening is available and access is available for supports for women who have dense breasts.

I rise in my place to thank Rafah for her commitment to this province and her service to this province. I wish her and her family the very best. We send all our love and support as she continues to advocate for thousands of women across this province. (Standing Ovation)

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THE SPEAKER « » : The honourable member for Lunenburg.

HON. SUSAN CORKUM-GREEK « » : Before I read my statement, I beg leave to make an introduction.

THE SPEAKER « » : Please do.

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SUSAN CORKUM-GREEK « » : Joining us today in the gallery opposite I am honoured to introduce Deanna Gear. If that last name sounds familiar to anyone it's because you've chatted with a special assistant to the Minister of Agriculture of that same name. Good people raise good people.

Deanna, I'd ask you to stand and please have the welcome of the House.

THE SPEAKER « » : Welcome to the House. We hope you enjoy your time here.

The honourable member for Lunenburg.

GEAR, DEANNA: RETIREMENT - CONGRATS.

HON. SUSAN CORKUM-GREEK « » : I rise today to congratulate Deanna Gear on a well-deserved retirement. In 1997 Deanna and her late husband Wade took a big leap, opening Seaside Flowers in Lunenburg. Their first location was across the street from my parents' store and they became good friends.

Wade had a particular gift for flower arrangement. His bouquets were distinctly different from other florists. Before long, every bride and bridesmaid, every prom date, every valentine wanted flowers from Seaside.

One year, a fishing company asked Seaside to make its wreath for the annual Fisher's Memorial Service. It was stunning and made from natural materials that would break down after being cast into the sea.

Sadly, Wade died in 2011 but Deanna kept the business going. On Sunday, September 7^th, she made her last delivery, more than two dozen gorgeous wreaths for the memorial service.

Speaker, I wish Deanna a retirement that is every bit as beautiful as her work.

THE SPEAKER « » : The honourable member for Halifax Needham.

SUZY HANSEN « » : Speaker, I beg leave to make an introduction.

THE SPEAKER « » : Please do.

SUZY HANSEN « » : I want to thank the parents and the community of St. Joseph's-Alexander McKay Elementary, also known as SJAM. They are families in our gallery opposite. They have been waiting for years for their school to reopen.

I'd like to introduce Emma Burns - and when your name is spoken you can stand - Emma Fitzgerald, Kate Crossland-Page, Jesse LeGallais, Paul Lenarczyk, and Jamesie Coolican. Would you please stand and receive the warm welcome of the House.

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THE SPEAKER « » : Welcome to the People's House. We hope you enjoy your time here.

The honourable member for Halifax Needham.

SJAM: BUILDING DELAY - PRIORITIZE

SUZY HANSEN « » : Speaker, I asked about SJAM at every opportunity I had in this House - in budget, in spring, and again in the fall sitting, with multiple ministers reassuring me that SJAM was on track. All the while we as a community knew that it wasn't. The ministers obviously knew in April that September 2025 was impossible. Why would they send an update with no information on the build?

The community knew this wasn't right but for what reason? These parents are here today to demand to know why the build has taken over four years to get to this point. The community deserves to know how our past tax dollars are now being put to work building our community's school without any further excuse or delay.

We want to know why our school is not being prioritized. This government is responsible for the school build and needs to be accountable for the delays and not making excuses. Our kids deserve the school they have been promised, even if it is now almost three years late. Make it happen in the way you would for a for-profit condo building or the way you would remove tolls from two bridges and repave the whole area.

Speaker, we need them to build a beautiful school for our community, and we deserve that now.

THE SPEAKER « » : The honourable member for Timberlea-Prospect.

MAYFLOWER CURLING CLUB: NEW LOCATION - CONGRATS.

HON. IAIN RANKIN « » : I want to welcome the new addition to Timberlea. We have the Mayflower Curling Club just opening up today. The Minister of Communities, Culture, Tourism and Heritage joined us today. We had a friendly little match; we threw a couple of rocks. He had the better form, but I think I got the better of him on points.

It was great to have the minister there and the province's support for a great project. There's a lot of history with the Mayflower - goes back to 1905. It started on Agricola Street, then went to Monaghan Drive, and now its home is Timberlea. The community is certainly welcoming it.

I want to particularly thank Mat Harris, who was a visionary behind it - a Timberlea resident who pushed to make the move and make it happen. There were many people involved, but I want to especially thank Mat and all those involved in building what is the largest curling centre in Atlantic Canada and the most sophisticated curling centre in all of the country right now.

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Thank you to Mat, thank you to the minister, and thank you to all involved for such a great project. Welcome to Timberlea.

THE SPEAKER « » : The honourable member for Shelburne on an introduction.

HON. NOLAN YOUNG » : Speaker, I beg leave to make an introduction.

THE SPEAKER « » : I just recognized you there.

NOLAN YOUNG « » : Perfect. Here we go.

In the gallery today, we have joining us Sherry Thorburn Irvine. She is a councillor with the Municipality of the District of Shelburne, and Sherry is a hard worker, dedicated to serving the residents she represents.

I would ask for her to stand and receive the warm welcome of the House. (Applause)

THE SPEAKER « » : Welcome to the House. We hope you enjoy your time here.

The honourable member for Cole Harbour-Dartmouth.

BRAD MCGOWAN « » : Speaker, before my statement, I beg leave to make an introduction.

THE SPEAKER « » : Please do.

BRAD MCGOWAN « » : In your gallery today, we have two extraordinary volunteers and community leaders in Dartmouth, in Halifax, and even farther abroad: Jim and Judie Edgar.

I'd ask them to please stand and receive a warm welcome from the House. (Applause).

THE SPEAKER « » : Welcome to the House. We hope you enjoy your time here.

The honourable member for Cole Harbour-Dartmouth.

EDGAR, JIM & JUDIE: DAFFODIL GARDEN - THANK

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BRAD MCGOWAN « » : Speaker, Jim and Judie Edgar personify community volunteering in Cole Harbour-Dartmouth. They began their journey with the planning and construction of the Daffodil Garden for Cancer Survivors. For the past five years, this garden, which is located near Alderney Landing, has been a sanctuary for those who have been impacted by cancer.

Both cancer survivors themselves, Jim and Judie were inspired to create the garden - the first in Atlantic Canada - to allow others to have a place to meet and where they can take a walk to be inspired and rejuvenated. While walking through the garden, people can also read positive quotes and contemplate the artistic features that represent recovery, all the while becoming more physically active on this barrier-free path.

In addition to the Daffodil Garden for Cancer Survivors, Jim and Judie Edgar also generously give their time to other causes in the community, most notably the Ataraxy Farm in Lawrencetown.

Over the past year, it has been my pleasure to get to know Jim and Judie, and I remain in awe of the difference they are making in our community.

I ask the members of this Legislature to please join me in thanking the Edgars for all they do to make lives brighter each day. (Applause)

THE SPEAKER « » : The honourable member for Sackville-Cobequid.

PAUL WOZNEY « » : Speaker, I beg leave to make an introduction.

THE SPEAKER « » : Please do.

PAUL WOZNEY « » : Speaker, with us today in the gallery are President and Events Chair Dan Budgell; Canada Day Parade Chair Les Strong; and Treasurer Elizabeth Booth of the Sackville Community Development Association. They are the subject of my member's statement to come.

I invite them to stand and receive the warm welcome of the House. (Applause)

THE SPEAKER « » : Welcome. Welcome to the People's House. We hope you enjoy your time here.

The honourable member for Sackville-Cobequid.

SACKVILLE COMM. DEVELOPMENT ASSOC.: COMM. SUPPORT - THANK

PAUL WOZNEY « » : Today, I celebrate a group that knows how to bring people together like no other: the Sackville Community Development Association. These folks make Sackville a place where people from all around connect and celebrate a shared sense of community and love for their hometown.

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The SCDA is directly responsible for some of Sackville's most vibrant and popular events. You don't have to take my word for it. You can ask any one of the more than 50,000 people who attend their events annually. In fact, events like Sackville Community Days, a marathon of concerts, dances, sporting events, and contests reached record-breaking audiences this year.

These folks aren't keen to rest on their laurels, and they specifically asked that I encourage anyone interested to volunteer and join their board. I also encourage all in attendance to join me in congratulating the Sackville Community Development Association on another banner year and wishing them many more to come. Thank you so much.

THE SPEAKER « » : The honourable member for Cumberland North.

ELIZABETH SMITH-MCCROSSIN « » : Speaker, I beg leave to make an introduction.

THE SPEAKER « » : Please do.

ELIZABETH SMITH-MCCROSSIN « » : Speaker, there are a few women here. I am going to introduce two of them now and then more in my next member's statement. First, I'd like to welcome - and ask them to stand - Patsy Lynn Smith and Kathleen Skead. Welcome to the House and enjoy your stay.

THE SPEAKER « » : Welcome. We hope you enjoy your time here.

The honourable member for Cumberland North.

SMITH, LYNN: HEALTH WAIT-TIME CONCERNS - RECOG.

ELIZABETH SMITH-MCCROSSIN « » : Today I rise to share the story of Lynn Smith, a Nova Scotian woman whose experience reflects the crisis facing so many others who are trying to access women's health care.

In early 2022, Lynn's doctor identified a serious health concern requiring a referral to a specialist gynecologist. As her condition worsened, multiple updated referrals were sent, yet it was not until May 2025 - more than three and a half years later - that she was finally seen.

After another wait of two to three months for testing, she's now been told she's placed on a surgical wait-list that can take an additional one and a half years. By the time Lynn receives care, she will have waited five to six years, and her surgery will likely be far more extensive because of these delays.

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The clinic's own voicemail warns patients that the wait to be seen is three years or longer. There are fewer than 3.8 full-time equivalent specialists serving all Nova Scotia, New Brunswick, and Prince Edward Island. Even if funding were approved, there isn't enough clinic space and operating time. We need urgent action to improve women's health care in this province. (Applause)

THE SPEAKER « » : The honourable member for Sydney-Membertou.

CHISHOLM, MARY: DAUGHTER, ELODIE - BIRTH CONGRATS.

HON. DEREK MOMBOURQUETTE « » : We're a small caucus, our families are close, and we hear the stories each day of our children and what our children are up to. I want to rise in my place to recognize my friend and my colleague from Timberlea-Prospect on the birth of their new baby, Elodie, and recognize Mary.

If you know Mary, she's wonderful. She's a wonderful gal, and we love seeing Iain, Mary, and the kids. I'm really proud to stand next to my friend. I've served with him now for over 10 years, and it's always nice to celebrate the personal stuff in life, too.

Elodie, welcome to the world. The Rankin family continues to grow. I want to recognize my friend and Mary and congratulate them on the new addition to their family. (Applause)

THE SPEAKER « » : Order. People in the gallery - especially some - know better. We'll let it go though.

The honourable member for Digby-Annapolis.

HALLIDAY, JOAN MARIE: DEATH OF - TRIBUTE

HON. JILL BALSER « » : Today, October 2^nd, marks what would have been the 85^th birthday of Joan Marie Halliday of Digby, a vibrant and energetic woman who touched the lives of many before her passing on August 14, 2025.

Born in Waterford, Digby County, in 1940, to the late Henry and Edith Lewis, Joan was known for her generous spirit, her boundless energy, and her signature heart-to-heart hugs. She gave much of her time volunteering at the Digby Bargain Bin, where she made many dear friends and contributed to the well-being of the community.

She is lovingly remembered by her daughter, Shaunda, and her son-in-law, Kevin McCully; her grandchildren, Kasha, Kalesha, Austin, and Douglas; her great-grandchildren, Harlow, Kane, Wellington, and Lewis; and her daughter-in-law, Helen Halliday. Joan was predeceased by her husband, Wellington; her son, Richard; and her siblings, Hank, Wayne, and Donna.

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I ask that all members of the House join me in honouring the life and legacy of Joan and extending our deepest condolences to her family and friends, who are all celebrating Joan's 85^th birthday today at the Sydney Street Pub & Café in Digby.

THE SPEAKER « » : At the beginning of this session, there was a request to extend this time by 15 minutes.

All right. There's been a change of plans, so what I'm going to do is recognize someone to put a request - whomever stands.

The honourable member for Halifax Citadel-Sable Island.

LISA LACHANCE « » : I request unanimous consent to extend the hour of daily routine by 30 minutes.

THE SPEAKER « » : There has been a request to extend the daily routine by 30 minutes.

Is it agreed?

It is agreed.

We will extend until 1:30.

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THE SPEAKER « » : The honourable member for Dartmouth South.

YOM KIPPUR: JEWISH COMMUNITY MEANINGFUL FAST - RECOG.

CLAUDIA CHENDER « » : Speaker, yesterday at sunset Jewish communities in Nova Scotia, Canada, and around the world began observing Yom Kippur, the Day of Atonement and the holiest day in the Jewish calendar. This is a time for reflection, prayer, and atonement. To everyone marking Yom Kippur, I wish you a meaningful fast and a day of peace and renewal.

THE SPEAKER « » : The honourable member for Timberlea-Prospect.

BURKEY, LEONA: "WAVE THEORY" - CONGRATS.

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HON. IAIN RANKIN « » : I want to highlight the remarkable contributions of Leona Burkey, a contemporary roots singer-songwriter and recording artist based in both Halifax and Cape Breton. Known for her distinctive renegade mom folk style, Leona offers a heartfelt and authentic voice to the struggling optimists among us. Leona is a proud resident of Prospect, and she has cultivated a unique musical journey that resonates deeply with her audience. One of her most poignant creations is the song "Wave Theory," lovingly written for her autistic son, Zack. This son exemplifies her ability to translate personal experiences into universally relatable art.

Since here debut with The Margaret Marie EP in 2013, Leona has been meticulously refining her sound. She has embraced the old-fashioned approach, slowly and steadily building a dedicated community of fans. Through her impromptu Cape Breton troubadour style, live performances, and the power of word of mouth, she has established herself as a beloved figure in the contemporary folk scene. Despite the challenges of balancing her career with motherhood, Leona has remained focused on her passion for recording and songwriting. Her perseverance has been recognized with nominations for the East Coast Music Awards and Music Nova Scotia for her last album, Sitting Tight.

I ask the members of the House of Assembly to join me in recognizing Leona's story as one of resilience, creativity, and unyielding dedication to her craft. Her music continues to inspire and uplift, and I'm proud to celebrate her contributions.

THE SPEAKER « » : The honourable member for Hammonds Plains-Lucasville.

NAT'L CYBERSECURITY AWARENESS MO.: EDUCATE - RECOG.

RICK BURNS « » : Speaker, yesterday marked the start of National Cybersecurity Awareness Month. This month plays a crucial role in educating Canadians about the ever-evolving threats that exist in our digital landscape. Established in 2003 to help educate Canadians on the risks we face online, it is more clear that protecting ourselves in the digital world is more important than ever. Cybersecurity affects us all. This is why we use this month to focus on sharing practical tips and information to help Canadians stay safe online, no matter their level of tech literacy.

This month, people should be able to learn about strong passwords, spotting online scams, and recognizing phishing attempts. The goal is to give everyone the tools they need to protect their personal information and to use the internet more safely and securely.

THE SPEAKER « » : The honourable member for Dartmouth North.

NUSSEIBEH, TAMER: PALESTINIAN HERITAGE - HONOUR

SUSAN LEBLANC « » : Speaker, I would like to bring to light another story of a Palestinian living here in Nova Scotia who is worried about his family back home. Tamer Nusseibeh is employed by the Clerk's Office here at the Legislature, and he started working here as a Legislative Page. Tamer is Palestinian. He moved to Nova Scotia in 2019 to study political science and international law. He graduated from Saint Mary's University in 2022. Tamer is a son, a grandson, and an older brother to his sister and brother.

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Tamer's family is back home in Jerusalem. His father worked for the International Committee of the Red Cross analyzing stories and connecting with imprisoned Palestinians and their families. His mother works for the British Consulate, supporting and funding Palestinian-owned and -operated businesses in the West Bank. Though the destruction of Gaza and other areas of Palestine has not yet reached the West Bank, Tamer's family is in daily contact with those whose lives have been destroyed by the occupation and genocide in Gaza. He is deeply worried for his family and for his people.

May we in this Chamber use what channels we can to implore the government of Canada to lend its energy and leadership to ending the genocide and working toward the establishment of a free and peaceful Palestine.

THE SPEAKER « » : The honourable member for Cole Harbour.

GLOBAL DIVERSITY AWARENESS MO.: OCTOBER - RECOG.

HON. LEAH MARTIN « » : Speaker, I rise today to acknowledge Global Diversity Awareness Month. This month allows us to not only acknowledge but actively celebrate the rich tapestry of cultures, backgrounds, and perspectives that shape our communities. Our world today is more interconnected than ever before, and Global Diversity Awareness Month gives us the opportunity to celebrate all the ways diversity enriches our lives.

Diversity is not just a strength; it is a source of innovation and resilience. By embracing and honouring our differences, we could build bridges of understanding and create a society where everyone has the opportunity to thrive. Let us use this month to reaffirm our commitment to inclusion, equity, and respect for all.

THE SPEAKER « » : The honourable member for Halifax Citadel-Sable Island.

COCHRANE, CHRIS - ELLE NOIR: 20^TH DRAG ANNIV. - CONGRATS.

LISA LACHANCE « » : Speaker, I rise today to recognize the incredible career of Halifax drag legend and activist Chris Cochrane, also known as Elle Noir. Chris is a Black trans activist, public speaker, performer, and community leader. Chris has worked toward creating spaces for racialized queer and trans people, both in the drag community and the community as a whole. She speaks and educates about her lived experience and her intersectionality. She is the former vice-chair of Halifax Pride and the current 2SQTBIPOC Skills Project Manager for Halifax Pride. She is also the recipient of the YMCA Peace Medal for Equity, Diversity, and Inclusion.

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Originally from Cape Breton, Chris moved to Halifax in 2005 and began performing drag in the city. Her talent as a drag performer has led her to become a local celebrity, known best as her drag persona, Elle Noir, winning the Best Halifax Drag Performer for six years consecutively. This year, on the stage of Halifax Pride's MelaNATION: A QTBIPOC Showcase, hosted and created by Elle herself, she celebrated her 20^th drag anniversary.

I ask all members to join me in congratulating Chris on celebrating 20 years of drag.

THE SPEAKER « » : The honourable member for Cumberland North.

ELIZABETH SMITH-MCCROSSIN « » : Speaker, I beg leave to make an introduction.

THE SPEAKER « » : Please do.

ELIZABETH SMITH-MCCROSSIN « » : I'd like to introduce some more women who are here asking this government to create a women's health strategy, and I'd ask them to stand: Jenn Brady, Cairista MacIsaac, Julie Coutinho, Lindsay MacInnis, and Krista Hollett. Thank you for coming today. Welcome to the House. (Applause)

THE SPEAKER « » : Welcome to the People's House. We hope you enjoy your time here.

The honourable member for Cumberland North.

WOMEN: N.S. HEALTH CRISIS - ADDRESS

ELIZABETH SMITH-MCCROSSIN « » : I hope there's no one I missed. I know there are many women here, and we applaud them for using their voice, their strength, and their courage to ask for improved access to care for all women here in Nova Scotia.

Speaker, Kathleen is an example of someone who is waiting too long. After moving to Nova Scotia, she faced a year-long wait for screening for breast cancer. In January 2023, she received an abnormal result. Follow-up tests revealed a 6.3 by 3.3 by 6 centimetre mass. By June - after waiting five months - she underwent a left-breast mastectomy, and pathology confirmed Stage 3 carcinoma. After enduring months of chemo and radiation, she's learned that the wait for reconstructive surgery was nearly three years. She is still waiting today.

Many women living with endometriosis are being forced to fundraise to travel out of country. Women shouldn't be forced to start a GoFundMe page to get essential medical care here in this province.

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I applaud these women for their strength and courage, and I'm committed to working with them, along with other Nova Scotians, to improve care for women's health in Nova Scotia. (Standing Ovation)

THE SPEAKER « » : The honourable member for Guysborough-Tracadie on an introduction.

HON. GREG MORROW » : Speaker, I beg leave to make a quick introduction.

In the gallery is Willy Versteeg, the owner and operator of Barneybrook Farms in East Hants. Willy is a community leader and has served as a municipal councillor, president of the Nova Scotia Federation of Agriculture, director of the Canadian Federation of Agriculture, and chair and vice-chair of the Farmers Dairy Audit Committee. Willy is wrapping up more than a decade of service to the Farm Loan Board.

On behalf of the Nova Scotia agriculture industry, I'd like to thank Willy for all his contributions over the years and wish him the very best in the next chapter. (Applause)

THE SPEAKER « » : Welcome to the House.

The honourable member for Glace Bay Dominion.

SENIORS WEEK: VALUABLE CONTRIBS. - RECOG.

JOHN WHITE « » : Speaker, today marks the start of Seniors Week in Nova Scotia. While we certainly honour our seniors every day of the year, this is a special opportunity to recognize the valuable contributions of older adults in our communities.

Seniors in Nova Scotia have shaped our province through their hard work, knowledge, and dedication. This day is an opportunity to celebrate their achievements and acknowledge the importance of their wisdom and insight while supporting their health and well-being.

As we honour our seniors, let us commit to ensuring they always feel respected, valued, and empowered to live with dignity and independence.

THE SPEAKER « » : The honourable member for Sackville-Cobequid.

CANADIAN UNION OF POSTAL WORKERS:

FEDERAL INTERFERENCE - RECOG.

PAUL WOZNEY « » : I rise today in solidarity with the members of the Canadian Union of Postal Workers - devalued by both Canada Post and the Federal Government.

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It is troubling for all Canadians that Prime Minister Carney has proposed the termination of home mail delivery and the closure of rural post offices in order to pressure a union actively engaged in free and fair collective bargaining. It is shocking to me that a government that ran on an "Elbows Up" campaign and a promise to look out for all Canadians would so plainly interfere with negotiations impacting almost 60,000 workers across the country.

Banking, social assistance programs, government offices, and other essentials of Canadian life are linked inextricably with the postal service, and it is unthinkable that the federal government would threaten these invaluable workers on behalf of the employer.

Speaker, I request that all present join me in celebrating our unionized mail carriers who are standing up not only to an intractable employer but a Federal Government that continues to show contempt for the charter of rights of working people from coast to coast to coast.

THE SPEAKER « » : The honourable member for Kings West.

FIREFIGHTERS (N.S.): LAKE GEORGE FIRE - THANK

CHRIS PALMER: Speaker, I would like to rise to add my voice to all of those who have been thanking all the brave men and women who have been fighting fires in our province this summer - and obviously in the Annapolis Valley with the Long Lake fires. Now the brave men and women of DNR, our volunteer firefighters across the Valley, and EMO staff have been called into action again in my constituency, in the Lake George area.

I would just like to personally, on behalf of all the residents I represent in Kings West, thank them all for their tireless efforts, willingness to put their own safety at risk for their community members, and for all the volunteers who were setting up command centres and support centres at the Morristown Community Hall, all the volunteers who were bringing in items of food and drink, and the Red Cross, who are working at the comfort centre in New Minas at the Louis Millett Centre.

On behalf of all my residents, I'd like to ask all members of the House to continue to keep all those fighting the fire in my community in your prayers and thoughts, and thank again all those working hard on our behalf.

THE SPEAKER « » : The honourable member for Cape Breton Centre-Whitney Pier.

BACKPACKS FOR STUDENTS: CBRM COMM. EFFORTS - THANK

KENDRA COOMBES « » : Speaker, on August 13, my summer student, Quinn, and I joined other community members at Town House, Glace Bay, to pack 3,500 backpacks for students who are in need of supports in the New Waterford area, Reserve Mines, Donkin, and Glace Bay.

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I ask the House to join me in thanking Humanity, Town House CSL, New Waterford Kinsmen, and Connect, Undercurrent Youth Centre, Glace Bay, for ensuring that students have the school supplies they need for their successful school year. Thank you to all the volunteers, including all those from the Reserve Mine Seniors & Pensioners Club and the Cape Breton Regional Police for making going back to school so much easier for so many.

THE SPEAKER « » : I recognize the honourable member for Timberlea-Prospect, but I recognize that the member has already done two, so I am recognizing him on an introduction.

HON. IAIN RANKIN « » : On an introduction, please, thank you. In the gallery opposite, I wanted to recognize that Sandy MacDonald is here. She is a constituent of mine but also a co-founder of International Association of Premenstrual Disorders. So if Sandy could stand up and receive the warm welcome of the House, that would be awesome. (Applause)

THE SPEAKER « » : Welcome to the House. We hope you enjoy your time.

The honourable member for Hants West.

PURCELL, MURRAY: COMM. SPIRIT - RECOG.

MELISSA SHEEHY-RICHARD « » : Speaker, Hants West is fortunate to have a local legend who exemplifies community spirit: Murray Purcell. Murray is a familiar and cherished person at our local rinks where he dedicates countless hours during hockey and broomball seasons. Whether he is cheering on the home team, keeping score, or managing the time clock, Murray is always there, ready to lend a hand in any way he can. In fact, his contributions are so invaluable that the Brooklyn rink has honoured him by naming the timekeeper's box in his recognition.

It is not just his dedication that stands out but his infectious personality, which makes him a favourite amongst all who know him. But that is not all. During baseball season, he is often found supporting our ball players and cheering on the teams - always a steady presence in the field. Murray's selfless contributions to athletes of all ages and his unwavering support across a variety of sports teams deserves our heartfelt recognition.

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THE SPEAKER « » : The honourable member for Dartmouth South.

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CLAUDIA CHENDER « » : Speaker, I beg leave to make an introduction.

THE SPEAKER « » : Please do.

CLAUDIA CHENDER « » : I'd like to draw the members' attention to the gallery opposite, where we're joined by my constituency coordinator, Jessica Barry. Some of you will know that as a party leader, you don't spend nearly as much time as you'd like to in the constituency office. I rely on incredible staff to keep the lights on, the emails returned, the people helped, the forms filled out, the newsletters going out, and everything else under the sun that a constituency coordinator is required to do. Jessica does that amazingly, sometimes with the help of her son Freddie. If you could please rise and receive the warm welcome of the House. (Applause)

THE SPEAKER « » : Welcome to the House. I think you're probably in a great room. We all realize and appreciate how hard you and the others work.

THE SPEAKER « » : The honourable member for Dartmouth South.

BREAST CANCER AWARENESS MONTH: OCTOBER - RECOG.

CLAUDIA CHENDER « » : I rise today to recognize October as Breast Cancer Awareness Month and to reflect on a disease that affects one in eight women in Canada - more than that in my own family - and touches families across Nova Scotia. We know that early detection saves lives. It also improves health outcomes and significantly reduces the emotional and financial burden on families and on our health care system.

Treating breast cancer in its early stages not only increases survival but lowers cost, with Stage 1 treatment's average cost 10 times lower than Stage 4. Access to timely and equitable screening is critical, especially for anyone with dense breast tissue who may require supplemental screening to catch cancer early. We must ensure that no one is left behind due to barriers in our health care system. This issue is personal to so many of us, and I stand in support of all those who have faced breast cancer, those in treatment, their families, and everyone else. Let's raise awareness and make action.

THE SPEAKER « » : The honourable member for Sackville-Uniacke.

SACKVILLE-MT. UNIACKE SCHOOLS: STUDENTS - WELCOME

HON. BRAD JOHNS « » : Typically, I rise to wish and congratulate and welcome back the students. I didn't have an opportunity to do that this year, so I would like to take the opportunity to welcome back all those students in the Sackville-Mount Uniacke area who are returning to school or have started school this year, whether it's high school, elementary, junior high, post-secondary.

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I'd also like to acknowledge the hard-working staff, whether it's the teachers, the program assistants, the custodians who make it possible. I want to wish all the students all the best and a safe and successful school year. I also want to recognize my youngest daughter, Maria, who is in Grade 12 at Millwood High. Class of 2026 will be graduating this year, so I want to wish her all the best this year. All the best to everyone back in school this year.

THE SPEAKER « » : The honourable member for Halifax Chebucto.

WOMEN'S HISTORY MONTH: OCTOBER - RECOG.

KRISTA GALLAGHER « » : I rise to recognize October as Women's History Month in Canada, a time to honour trailblazers, builders, dreamers, and fighters who carved out space for women in every corner of our shared history.

As we all know, it's only been just over a century since women gained the right to vote. It was hard fought, it was years of organization, and it would pave the way for women to sit in this very Chamber. In 1960, Gladys Porter was the first woman elected to the Nova Scotia House of Assembly. Only 20 years later, Alexa McDonough became the first woman to lead a major political party. It took almost another 20 years for the first African Nova Scotian woman to be elected, social activist Yvonne Atwell.

Only two years later, Karla MacFarland became the first female Speaker of the House in over 250 years of Nova Scotia's government. Our current leader of the Official Opposition is the first woman to do so. Women have fought hard to make legislation more representative of the people it serves. The voices of women remain essential to building a province that doesn't just represent the interest of those in power.

Women's History Month just isn't about remembering how far we've come but about recommitting to the work that lies before us. (Applause)

THE SPEAKER « » : The honourable member for Lunenburg West.

STRONG, EMILY: HEBBVILLE ACAD. - RECOG.

HON. BECKY DRUHAN « » : Today I rise to recognize an exceptional educator who is shaping young minds through the power of music, Emily Strong, the dedicated and passionate music teacher at Hebbville Academy. Ms. Strong goes above and beyond to inspire her students and create an inclusive and engaging environment, where creativity and confidence thrive. Whether in class with students sparking a love of music, leading junior, senior, and jazz bands, or organizing a performance for both big and little schools, her energy and enthusiasm are boundless.

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Emily's school concerts never fail to impress, delivering student-composed original compositions, class collaborations with professional musicians, and recently even featuring the debut of an original piece from the winner of East Coast Music Association's Classic Composer of the Year Award.

Her commitment to music education leaves a lasting impact on her students, giving them not only musical skills but teamwork and a sense of joy in learning. The Hebbville Academy community is lucky to have educators like Emily Strong, who bring heart and harmony into our schools.

I ask members to please join me in thanking Emily for her dedication and celebrating her contributions to the students of Hebbville Academy.

THE SPEAKER « » : The honourable member for Halifax Armdale.

CAREGIVERS N.S.: COMM. SUPPORT - THANK

ROD WILSON « » : I rise today to recognize Caregivers Nova Scotia, a not-for-profit. Members were to be here today, but like many caregivers, they are sick with Covid-19, so we speak to them in absence but in honour.

Caregivers Nova Scotia is a not-for-profit organization that supports over 6,500 caregivers, unpaid caregivers across Nova Scotia, just the tip of the iceberg of caregiving in Nova Scotia.

They operate under the moto of "being heard is the first step toward better support." By listening to caregivers, often we think the caregivers are those of us who are caring for elderly parents. In many cases, it's elderly parents caring for adult children in their home.

They turn that support into research. They are the subject matter experts in caregiving. They provide support across the province and, most importantly, they advocate for policy.

At a recent town hall meeting in our constituency on seniors' long-term care, they spoke with great pride and also provided us with great content. Today, in your absence Caregivers Nova Scotia, I appreciate everything you do for caregivers across Nova Scotia.

THE SPEAKER « » : The honourable member for Queens.

THORBOURNE, GREG:

N.S. CURLING ASSOC. HALL OF FAME - CONGRATS.

HON. KIM MASLAND « » : I rise today to congratulate Greg Thorbourne on being inducted into the Nova Scotia Curling Association's Hall of Fame. His installation into the Builders category was celebrated on June 7^th at an event organized by the Liverpool Curling Club in the Liverpool Championship Host Society.

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Greg has curled, coached, and umpired at local, provincial, national, and world levels of the game for close to an incredible 70 years. In addition, he has served as a chair of the committee that hosted the 2014 Canadian Junior Curling Championships, the 2019 World Junior Curling Championships, the 2021 Canadian Olympic Curling Pre-trials, and the 2025 Canadian Mixed Doubles Curling Trials in Liverpool.

Indeed, it is impossible to talk about curling in Queens without Greg Thorbourne's name being mentioned. Greg, congratulations on this well-deserved honour and thank you for all you have done for the game of curling at home and afar.

THE SPEAKER « » : The honourable member for Fairview-Clayton Park.

NOVA VILLAGE NS: DEDICATION - COMMEND

LINA HAMID « » : Speaker, I rise today to celebrate Nova Village NS, a beloved family resource hub that has recently expanded its reach across the province. Formerly known as the Fairview Resource Centre, for nearly 40 years they have stayed true to their mission: to provide programs and supports that enrich lives and foster well-being.

Nova Village's new name reflects their province-wide scope while paying tribute to their roots and location on Dutch Village Road. What has not changed is their commitment to delivering low-barrier family-centred programs that allow children and parents in the area to thrive.

Their recent successes include developing provincial Thriving Families NS program, offering new family counselling and maternal wellness programs, as well as hosting their very first annual Back-to-School backpack program, which we were very happy to support.

I ask all members of the House to join me in commending Nova Village NS for their leadership, their compassion, and their dedication to family wellness in Nova Scotia, even while receiving far-too-little operational funding.

THE SPEAKER « » : The honourable member for Yarmouth.

WOOD, TIM: DEATH OF - TRIBUTE

NICK HILTON « » : I rise today to recognize Wood's Berries in Raynardton, Yarmouth County. Wood's Berries is renowned for its commitment to the highest quality products, deep community ties, and a special love for family. Whether it's enjoying their popular U-Pick or stopping by the roadside stand, no summer in Yarmouth feels complete without a visit to Wood's Berries.

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I visited the farm several times, including last summer with the honourable Premier. Since that visit, our community has experienced a profound loss. On August 18^th, we lost Tim Wood, a dedicated and loving family man, a respected leader, and part owner of Wood's Berries. Tim will forever be remembered for his leadership, his kindness, and the lasting impact he's made on his family, his business, and his community.

I ask all members of the House to join me in celebrating Wood's Berries and the Wood family, and in honouring the memory of Tim Wood, whose legacy will continue to be felt throughout Yarmouth for many years to come.

THE SPEAKER « » : The honourable member for Halifax Needham.

BOWDEN, CST. BRENT - TRURO POLICE SERV.: RACISM - ADDRESS

SUZY HANSEN « » : I rise today to recognize Constable Brent Bowden. He spent his life in service to his country and his community as a decorated military veteran and a police officer with the Truro Police Service.

In the summer of 2024, two of Brent's colleagues in the police service who held positions of seniority over him committed an intentional act rooted in racist ideology. It was caught on tape. They denied it, when confronted admitted to it, then were instructed to apologize. Hollow actions.

Brent's pursuit of justice has been hampered by the Town of Truro. Brent has reached out for help to the Minister of African Nova Scotian Affairs, the MLA for Truro-Bible Hill-Millbrook-Salmon River, his MLA in New Glasgow, the Minister of Justice, and the Premier, with no help given. I would like all members of this House to stand up to racism, because African Nova Scotians should never have to endure this type of treatment when wrongs happen. Speaker, racism has no place in this province. We need to do better.

THE SPEAKER « » : The honourable member for Hants East.

LANTZ: LOSS OF YOUTH - REMEMBER

JOHN A. MACDONALD: It's been a rough time in Lantz. We've had a loss of some youth, 2023, all unexpected. I'd just like to remind everybody as we're coming close to the end of the session, just remember to hold your family close by, because all we have is right now.

THE SPEAKER « » : Short but impactful.

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The honourable member for Dartmouth North.

LUDDINGTON, PETER & CHRISTIANN:

THE BLUENOSER - CONGRATS

SUSAN LEBLANC « » : I live in a fairly quiet residential neighbourhood in Dartmouth North, the kind of neighbourhood where it's easy to notice when something changes. About five years ago, I saw it: a big blue school bus parked in a driveway at a house not too far from mine. I've been curious about it, but a little shy to ask what it was all about.

Recently I was out knocking on doors, and officially met Peter and Christiann Luddington, the owners and co-pilots of The Bluenoser. My colleague, Cailen, who was with me, asked them straight up, "Hey, what's with the bus?" Peter and Christiann told us all about it and invited us for a tour.

The Bluenoser started as a pandemic project that soon became a labour of love and a symbol of perseverance. Having spent the last five years tearing out seats, replacing parts and adding a gorgeous kitchenette, bedroom, tartan curtains, and even the sheet music to a bagpipe jig composed in The Bluenoser's honour, Peter and Christiann hit the road for the first time this summer.

You can follow their entire journey on The Bluenoser Facebook page. I would ask the House to join me in congratulating Peter and Christiann on creating The Bluenoser, for generously sharing their story with the world, and for never giving up on the bus.

THE SPEAKER « » : The honourable member for Cape Breton Centre-Whitney Pier.

COLLIERY LANDS PARK - BUDDY BENCH: STEVE MCNEIL - THANK

KENDRA COOMBES « » : Thank you, Speaker. I was expecting the government side to go.

I want to take this time to talk about the New Waterford Girl Guides and the donation of the Buddy Bench at the Colliery Lands Park, and the creator of that Buddy Bench, Steve McNeil, for creating that at our beautiful Colliery Lands Park.

They can create new friendships and renew and strengthen old friendships. A special shoutout to the 5^th New Waterford Girl Guides and Steve McNeil for donating his time and expertise. It was a privilege to be there to see it being donated.

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THE SPEAKER « » : Order. The time allotted for Statements by Members has expired. The time is now 1:30 p.m. We will finish at 2:20 p.m.

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ORDERS OF THE DAY

ORAL QUESTIONS PUT BY MEMBERS TO MINISTERS

THE SPEAKER The honourable Leader of the Official Opposition.

DHW - WOMEN'S HEALTH: GOV'T PROMISES - ADDRESS

CLAUDIA CHENDER « » : Speaker, for decades, women's health has been treated as an afterthought not as a priority. This government made big campaign promises to support women's health care, but a year later, Nova Scotians are still waiting. Since this government got elected, women have seen precious little progress. The average wait time for routine care at the IWK Health Centre is two and a half to three years, and there is a 15,000-plus-person waiting list. Nova Scotia has the second-lowest percentage of women being screened for cervical cancer and breast cancer, and Nova Scotia's mortality rate for these cancers is above the national levels. Experts agree that improved screening can lead to earlier detection and better outcomes.

My question to the minister is: When will women's health be a priority?

HON. MICHELLE THOMPSON » : Our commitment to women's health didn't start a year ago. It started when we formed government in 2021. There have been a number of investments that we've made. We're working with operators, in particular, to understand the pressures in the system and how best we can serve women.

I'll just give some examples. There are now two specialty clinics for endometriosis and chronic pelvic pain and the Maritime Centre for Pelvic Floor Health. We have seen an increase of around 40 percent of people being able to access appointments at these centres as a result of operational excellence programs that are happening at the IWK Health Centre. There have been 13 full-time employees recruited to the ambulatory gynecological services. We also have increased gynecological services across the province.

CLAUDIA CHENDER « » : Speaker, this doesn't address the challenges I raised in my question. This government's record on women's health speaks for itself. Women and gender-diverse people in this province have over a nine-month wait for a mammogram; almost no access to advanced breast screening if you're high-risk; no take-home tests for cervical cancer like there are for prostate cancer; no menopause centre for excellence that we've seen; no free birth control, which women in Manitoba, P.E.I., Yukon, and British Columbia currently have and which is used for medication by many; and no access to surgical abortion services in many regional hospitals.

My question is: When will this government start listening not just to the clinicians but to women and act to improve their health care?

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MICHELLE THOMPSON « » : We do our very best to listen not only to clinicians but to women across this province. In fact, many of the clinicians who we listen to are women as we work in these spaces.

Recently, the Canadian Partnership Against Cancer has looked at modelling for breast-density screening. Nova Scotia was one of the five provinces that was able to participate deeply because of the information that they already have in that modelling. Currently, the effectiveness of supplemental screening is still uncertain, but we're working with experts to understand and make sure that, if evidence changes, we're at the forefront of that.

Nova Scotia is one of the few provinces that has a high-risk screening program. We are working across the lifespan in order to support girls and women in accessing health care.

CLAUDIA CHENDER « » : Other provinces have this screening available, and the high-risk program is almost impossible to access. Advocates and frontline organizations rallied outside today to ask this government to take action, and their message was simple: Women deserve systems that don't wait for a crisis to take them seriously. We deserve cancer screening tools that are available in other parts of this country. We deserve free contraception. We deserve real investments in research that will help keep us healthy. Prevention, screening, early detection: they matter. Our health should not be in crisis before it's taken seriously.

Speaker, my question to the government, to the Premier, and to the minister is: When can women and gender-diverse people in this province expect this government to finally take action?

MICHELLE THOMPSON « » : Women who are high-risk do have access to high-risk MRI screening if they meet the criteria. We're very proud of the Nova Scotia Breast Screening Program. Dr. Iles leads that program. I meet with her regularly. She is a thought leader and a clinical leader across this country.

There is cutting-edge research that is happening around ovarian cancer at Dalhousie University, and I had an opportunity to tour the lab just recently.

There are a number of things that are happening across women's health care, and there are a number of dedicated clinicians. We have invested a number of dollars across the system not only in women's health but in gender-diverse care, as well. We've increased access to gender-affirming care, and there are a number of changes that have happened at the policy and frontline levels.

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THE SPEAKER « » : The honourable Leader of the Liberal Party.

FTB - COST-OF-LIVING CRISIS: HARP CUTS - EXPLAIN

HON. DEREK MOMBOURQUETTE « » : Speaker, Nova Scotians are facing record cost-of-living pressures, including another power rate hike this winter. In the middle of this, the government has quietly cut back the Heating Assistance Rebate Program, dropping the rebate from $600 to $400 and lowering the income threshold to just $30,000 for individuals.

This is happening while the government is running a $1.2 billion deficit, driven by overspending on untendered contracts and projects that never get delivered on time.

My question is to the Minister of Finance and Treasury Board: Why is the government choosing to cut heating assistance for people who need it the most instead of getting their own house in order?

HON. JOHN LOHR » : Speaker, I am proud of all the things that we are doing as a government. We are investing in the needs of Nova Scotia, needs that were deferred in his government's time - needs in health care, needs in housing - so many things that that government did not do that we are working hard to catch up on.

In fact, this year, we gave a $1,000 per family tax break to Nova Scotians - the largest tax break in the history of Nova Scotia. I am proud of the record of our government, and I believe in the trajectory of our province. We will see our economy grow, and I am disappointed that member has no confidence in our province. I am disappointed to hear that.

DEREK MOMBOURQUETTE « » : Speaker, the minister forgets that we cut income tax, too, and balanced the books six years in a row. He forgets all the stuff that he voted against: the income tax cuts, the supports in the pre-Primary, the breakfast program, and everything that he didn't support when he was in Opposition.

The government budgeted $44.7 million for the HARP last year but ended up spending $89.3 million. This tells us the need was greater than what they budgeted for, but instead of responding to that reality, they turned around and cut the program back.

Can the minister explain why the government can find millions of dollars for untendered contracts for friends but not for a program that helps seniors, single parents, and families heat homes?

JOHN LOHR « » : Speaker, I was there for eight years, and that member's government balanced the budget on the backs of teachers, nurses, and the film industry, so I don't want to hear about that. We came into government, and we had to deal with deferred maintenance - the kindest way I can put it - of things that simply needed to be done. We are doing what Nova Scotians need us to do. We are a government of action, and we will continue to do that.

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DEREK MOMBOURQUETTE « » : Speaker, the government is projecting a $1.2 billion deficit, and they are celebrating it. The way they are celebrating it is cutting programs that our most vulnerable Nova Scotians need instead of actually getting control of the books and ensuring that the programs that are there for Nova Scotians continue to be there. It's unbelievable that they're celebrating a $1.2 billion deficit.

Nova Scotians are already bracing for a $400 increase in their annual power bills. The last place this government should be looking to rein in spending is on heating assistance for those who can't afford it. Why won't the minister commit to restoring this program and focus on reining in spending where it belongs, on untendered contracts, late projects, and ballooning deficits, instead of . . .

JOHN LOHR « » : Speaker, my question to the member would be: Please let me know which project or program we should cut. We are spending $80 million per year to feed 104,000 students every day, and we are building hospitals in his constituency. We are working hard across this province, and that's the reality.

We will continue to work. I will not listen to pessimism or negativity. (Interruption)

THE SPEAKER « » : Oh, we're rowdy today, aren't we? Does anybody need a couple of seconds just to scream?

The honourable Leader of the Official Opposition.

FTB: TAX CUT REALITIES - ADDRESS

CLAUDIA CHENDER « » : Speaker, yesterday and again today, this government pointed out that their tax cut is saving Nova Scotians $1,000 a year. That sounds okay until you look at the reality for a mom renting in Halifax. Since this government took office, her rent has gone up by $4,400. Her power bill has gone up by $400. Cuts to HARP have cost her $600 a year; lost savings from not having free birth control, $300; lost savings from not having the promised $10-a-day daycare, $3,640 per year. This government's inaction is costing her $9,340 a year.

Is the minister really surprised that we're not celebrating that they are helping people get by?

HON. JOHN LOHR « » : Speaker, I may not have been an MLA, but I remember well the Dexter government, which ran on cutting taxes and then immediately raised the HST by 2 percent.

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The reality is we're cutting taxes for Nova Scotians. We're in an unprecedented build - the first time in 30 years - for public housing. We have increased rent supplements. We're doing everything that we can for Nova Scotians. We will continue to do that.

CLAUDIA CHENDER « » : We hear a lot about investments and we hear very little about outcomes. Under this government, Nova Scotia has become a very expensive place to have a family. It is now as expensive as Toronto for renters, and child care costs are just as high. While families in St. John's and Charlottetown have $10-a-day child care, parents in Nova Scotia are paying $24 an hour for infants and $22 for young children. That means that every single month, parents here pay double what families in other Atlantic Canadian cities do, and that's if they're lucky enough to find a spot. Young people won't stay if they can't afford to live here; $10-a-day child care would make a big difference.

Will this government keep their promise of instituting $10-a-day child care in this mandate?

JOHN LOHR « » : Speaker, I'm proud of our government and all the things that we are doing to increase affordability for Nova Scotians. The truth is, we recognize the pressures on families. That's why we're doing things like feeding 104,000 students every day lunch at schools - a program, I will remind the member, that her party voted against in the budget.

We are doing everything that we can. We will continue to do more. We're working hard for Nova Scotians.

THE SPEAKER « » : The honourable member for Halifax Citadel-Sable Island.

GAD - GOV'T. TAX CUTS: RENT SUPPLEMENT MATH - EXPLAIN

LISA LACHANCE « » : We keep hearing over and over again this sitting about the government tax cuts that are saving the average Nova Scotian some money, but I would say we have to also acknowledge that that's an average. For lower-income Nova Scotians and lower-income families, the amount is much less - about $300 a year. Under this government, average rent has gone up $4,400 per year, so that math does not work.

How does this government expect Nova Scotians to pay $4,400 more in rent with only $1,000 or less per family?

HON. COLTON LEBLANC « » : Speaker, there are many things out of control in this world, but as a government, we are focusing on doing everything within our control, especially when it comes to housing. There is no one department in this province, there's no one government in this world, there's no one organization that can address these housing challenges alone. That's why it takes investments from the Province. That's why it takes investments from the federal government. That's why it takes investments and actually getting things done - development agreements at a municipal level moving. That's why we're putting our efforts, our money, the Province's money, the taxpayers of this province's money on the table and working hard to deliver results for them.

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LISA LACHANCE « » : Speaker, rent isn't the only thing that has increased in cost under this government. Since they formed government, power bills for the average Nova Scotian family have gone up $400 a year. Now this government has ripped $600 out of the pockets of people, cut from the Heating Assistance Rebate Program. These costs add up. I'll help you with some of them.

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I'll ask the minister again: How are Nova Scotians supposed to pay for at least $5,400 in increased costs under this government with only $1,000 or less, if you are a lower-income family?

COLTON LEBLANC « » : Speaker, I will remind members of this House and all Nova Scotians that the NDP is the only party that raised taxes after promising to not increase them.

The NDP can claim some success during their time in government but cut health care, cut education, and cut investments in housing. We're doing the opposite. We're investing in housing, we're investing in health care, and we're investing in Nova Scotians from one end of the province to the other.

It is basic economics. We know we need to increase the supply of housing in this province. Guess what? There's a big pot of pudding boiling on the stove right now. The proof is in the pudding: 167 percent, two years into our five-year target. We will continue to do everything within the Province's control to deliver to Nova Scotians.

THE SPEAKER « » : The honourable member for Fairview-Clayton Park.

OSD: MINIMUM WAGE VS. LIVING WAGE - ADDRESS

LINA HAMID « » : The Minister of Opportunities and Social Development has said - over and over again - that the best social program is a job. The minimum wage is only $16.50 per hour while the wage needed to afford a one-bedroom apartment in this province is $27 per hour.

My question to the minister is: How can a job be the best social program when people working full time cannot afford to live here?

HON. SCOTT ARMSTRONG » : I do believe that the best social program is a job, and that's why our party has raised the minimum wage not once but twice this year. We're also indexing income assistance. We've raised income assistance twice. We're investing in housing. We're supporting people who are homeless by investing in shelters. We've raised the money to support people who are homeless by 1,300 percent - $130 million this year.

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We are standing behind Nova Scotians. We're helping them get support to train them to get jobs. Meanwhile, all those investments and all those supports - the NDP consistently vote against them.

LINA HAMID « » : That doesn't answer my question. More and more people are losing their homes because that is simply not enough.

Let's try it from another angle: Nova Scotia has the highest child poverty rate in Atlantic Canada. In our province, one in four children are living in poverty. The government's talking point: the best social program is a job, and those living in poverty should just get one. Children living in poverty can't get jobs to pull themselves up by their bootstraps.

My question to the minister is: When will the minister stop telling struggling parents to get a job and do his by addressing the high rates of childhood poverty?

SCOTT ARMSTRONG « » : We are working on the child poverty rate. That is why our party is the one that put a lunch program in, supporting 104,000 children, so those parents don't have to buy the groceries to pack those lunches to put their children on the buses every day, so they can eat. That's on top of the millions of dollars we've invested over the years in breakfasts for learning. We're making sure students have a good meal every single day all day in school, so they can learn.

We're supporting students on income assistance to get the education and training they need as they mature so they can go to college, they can go to university, and they can get the training they need to get jobs.

We're investing in the future every single day. That's how we're supporting children. We're going to help them build better lives.

THE SPEAKER « » : The honourable Leader of the Liberal Party.

DNR - URANIUM BAN LIFTED: ZERO INTEREST - EXPLAIN

HON. DEREK MOMBOURQUETTE « » : Speaker, last sitting, the government lifted Nova Scotia's decades long ban on uranium exploration. The government claimed at the time that lifting the ban would create new opportunities. They went as far as putting it in their diary on the front page of the paper, spending $10,000 of taxpayers' money.

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Here we are, months later, and not a single company has come forward with interest in uranium exploration. In fact, the Premier himself said on the radio this summer that uranium is, and I quote: kind of toast.

Does the minister share the Premier's opinion on uranium exploration?

HON. TORY RUSHTON » : I hear the Liberal Caucus talk about being happy about resource development and encouraging development, but now they are negative about the uranium possibilities. I will answer his question.

There has been interest in uranium. There have been people coming to the province, but there have also been other investments that have come to the province in resource exploration that the doors have been opened to because of the uranium ban lift. Now, they see Nova Scotia as an opportunity to come here and focalize investment into our people, investment into future resource development, and investment in a future for Nova Scotians so our children and grandchildren can come home and make this a province to live in well.

DEREK MOMBOURQUETTE « » : Speaker, we support resource development, but we also support consultation. The whole reason for removing the moratorium in the first place was to go out and consult communities, which they did not do. Companies started showing up, and MLAs on that side started getting hundreds of emails from residents, because they did not know what was going on.

If the Premier, himself, believes that uranium is toast, why was lifting the ban such a priority for this government? Nova Scotians were told this would open the door for economic activity, but there has been no interest from industry, and the Premier has already dismissed it publicly. So, if there is a real opportunity here - if there is no opportunity, why not keep the ban in place, give the people certainty, make it clear that protecting our environment and communities matters, and go out and do what you were going do in the first place and consult residents . . .

THE SPEAKER « » : Order. The honourable Minister of Natural Resources.

TORY RUSHTON « » : In the member's first question, he said the companies didn't come. Then, in the second statement, he said the companies did come to the municipalities. Which is it, Speaker?

In all honesty, opening the door to resource development and investigation into our province has opened many doors. There are many companies that are now talking to Nova Scotia, while that member was part of the government that didn't want to talk to these companies. We know that Nova Scotia has a great opportunity with critical minerals and other natural resource developments here. We have an opportunity to grow our future for our children and grandchildren. We are going to do it in a responsible way, with full consultation and with a lead speed to focus ahead for all of our youth.

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THE SPEAKER « » : The honourable member for Dartmouth North.

DHW - ENDOMETRIOSIS CARE RALLY: EXPAND CARE - ADDRESS

SUSAN LEBLANC « » : Today, outside this House, Nova Scotians rallied to demand this government take action to support endometriosis care. About one-in-ten people with a uterus are affected by this disease. The condition can cause debilitating pain, but it is often dismissed, and wait times stretch up to 18 months. This is not surprising when the Endometriosis and Chronic Pelvic Pain Clinic at the IWK Health Centre is seeing patients once a week.

My question is: When will the minister commit to expanding care for endometriosis in Nova Scotia so that more people can get the care they need and faster?

HON. MICHELLE THOMPSON « » : There certainly have been a number of investments, not only in infrastructure. Over at Dartmouth General Hospital, there is the Deanne Reeve Pelvic Health Suite that supports gynecology and neurology and pelvic floor health. The Dr. Maria Angwin Memorial gynecology and neurology clinic on Wyse Road has also been established as of June 2025.

We are also looking at the Endometriosis and Chronic Pelvic Pain Clinic. I speak with Dr. Jangaard on a regular basis. They have increased their capacity through operational excellence. They are very focused. The clinicians understand that there are people who need this care. We are looking at whether or not it is infrastructure. In some cases, it may be clinicians. It is very special - the gynecology, urology - but urogynecology is a specialty. We continue to look for . . .

THE SPEAKER « » : Order, order. The honourable member for Dartmouth North.

SUSAN LEBLANC « » : Yes, Speaker, it is a specialty. It is a specialty for 50 plus 1 percent of the population of the earth. So, we should be putting more investment into health care for people with uteruses - full stop. Cairista MacIsaac helped organize today's rally outside. She has shared her struggles to get care for her endometriosis on her Facebook and Instagram. Healing with Endo 902 raises awareness and connects those who are suffering.

In order to get the treatment she needed, she had to travel to the U.S. for care costing about $28,000, which she had to fundraise.

Does the minister think it is acceptable for people like Cairista to have to pay tens of thousands of dollars to get the care they need for endometriosis?

MICHELLE THOMPSON « » : Speaker, we continue to invest in gynecological services across this province, and it does take time. We've increased by 13 full-time employees in interdisciplinary roles across the province. We have 65 FT physicians dedicated to gynecology and related specialties throughout the province.

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Not only are we looking at investing in clinicians and infrastructure in Central Zone, but we are also making sure that regional hospitals have capacity within their gynecological services to treat, particularly, women from rural communities and people with uteruses closer to home. We have to look at the infrastructure that is required, as well, whether that be equipment, training - all of those things.

We are very committed to women's health. The Premier announced in the platform that we will have a menopause centre of excellence, and that work is under way.

THE SPEAKER « » : Order. The honourable member for Halifax Needham.

DPW - SJAM: NEW SCHOOL - UPDATE

SUZY HANSEN « » : Speaker, it has been years since students at St. Joseph's-Alexander McKay Elementary School have been able to attend their own school in their own community. These delays show exactly what happens when school construction decisions are made without a clear plan.

Can the Minister of Public Works tell us: Where is the new school that was promised years ago?

HON. FRED TILLEY « » : We understand the frustration from the families and the students, but when they get to this new school, it will be second to none.

In my next answer, I will, when I have more time, walk you through the timeline of the delays, but the update that was provided in June of this year that indicated that students would be in the school midway through the school year still holds true, despite many delays, such as a strike and other things. We are committed, and SJAM is a priority for this government.

SUZY HANSEN « » : Speaker, it would be nice if the minister could table the details with updates and timelines. That would be great. Yet our kids will still graduate this year outside of their community, and we are still waiting.

It's not just SJAM, though. The Auditor General found out that there is no clear rationale for how this government decides which schools get built or fixed, and almost a third of schools are in poor or critical condition. This means families in communities like mine are being left without schools, and growing communities aren't getting the schools they need.

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Why won't the minister commit to an open, evidence-based plan so families know what to expect?

FRED TILLEY « » : I don't know how much more open I can be. In 2018, under the previous government, SJAM was identified as a major renovation. It wasn't appropriate at that time for that school. In 2020, under the previous government, it was determined that a new school was in order. In 2021, the design was made for that school, but then it didn't include a daycare, so in 2022, the daycare was added to the school.

Construction, from time of final design to moving in, will be two and a half years, which is actually quite good for a building of that size. It's going to be state of the art. It's going to be a beautiful school. It's going to be something that the community can be proud of.

THE SPEAKER « » : Order. The honourable member for Sackville-Cobequid.

DHW: COBEQUID COMM. HEALTH CTRE. CLOSURE - ADDRESS

PAUL WOZNEY « » : This morning, people in my community learned that the Cobequid Community Health Centre was closed while furnace problems were addressed. Many Sackville residents tell me, on an ongoing basis, that they don't have a family doctor, and when there are no emergency services available in our community, it's incredibly stressful. Any sudden, unexpected closure leaves families in Sackville wondering where they can turn for health care.

Can the minister explain why the people of Sackville are still waiting for the promised improvements to their health centre?

HON. MICHELLE THOMPSON « » : We have undertaken a significant project in the Central Zone region. The QEII Halifax Infirmary Expansion Project is obviously under way, and they are making great strides in that project.

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There are a number of different places, including Dartmouth General and Cobequid, where we're now entering Central Zone master planning. We're doing that with clinicians as well as community. Dr. Christine Short is leading that work. There has recently been an RFP awarded for more work in the Central area.

We understand that there are pressing issues, but we want to make sure that we have the right services in the right place. The community will hear more as that Central planning process continues.

PAUL WOZNEY « » : The Cobequid Community Health Centre is the second-busiest emergency room in the entire province, and it's not open 24 hours a day. This government promised expanded emergency care and 24/7 access back in 2021. Four years later, this so-called "make it happen" government only offers excuses to justify delays and inaction.

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When will residents get the full-service 24/7 facility that Tim Houston promised them . . .

THE SPEAKER « » : Order, order. You are not allowed to call anyone by their name. I ask for you to retract that. Wait until I recognize you. We're having a day here today, aren't we?

The honourable member for Sackville-Cobequid.

PAUL WOZNEY « » : I retract the comment, Speaker. I apologize for my misstep. It was unintended.

THE SPEAKER « » : Why, thank you.

Your microphone's still on. The honourable for Sackville-Cobequid.

PAUL WOZNEY « » : When will residents get the full-service 24/7 facility that the Premier promised them for two consecutive elections?

MICHELLE THOMPSON « » : We have prioritized infrastructure in health care. There has been an incredible amount of deferred maintenance across this province. We see a variety of different projects - not only rebuilds but also renovations - that are happening across this province in order to address the expanding demographics in our province that were not qualified or included in previous planning.

We currently have a project under way for Central Zone master planning. It is being led by clinicians. We are looking at different assets within communities. The folks over there will have an opportunity to be consulted. The clinicians are looking now at what services will be available and are currently available and how best to serve the needs of that community.

THE SPEAKER « » : The honourable member for Cumberland North.

DHW: WOMEN'S HEALTH STRATEGY - IMPLEMENT

ELIZABETH SMITH-MCCROSSIN « » : My question is for the Minister of Health and Wellness. Right now to get an appointment in the gynecology clinic at the IWK, it's a three-and-a-half-year wait time. There are only 3.8 full-time equivalent physician specialists for this clinic serving all of Nova Scotia, New Brunswick, and Prince Edward Island.

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The minister referred to the specialty clinics for endometriosis, but those don't provide the surgery that some women require when they have endometriosis, forcing women to travel out of country for the care. Not only has Cairista - who's with us today - had to do this. Allie MacLean has also started a GoFundMe page.

Will the minister admit that these wait times are not acceptable and start a women's health strategy for this province?

HON. MICHELLE THOMPSON « » : We are working with the operators across this province - the IWK, the Nova Scotia Health Authority, as well as our regional sites where gynecological care is offered. There are new pathways to care, more gynecologists provincially, and a navigator to support and improve access in the province.

What we want is to make sure that people can access care closer to home, and if there is expertise that's required in the city, how do we look at a hub-and-spoke model so that people don't have to travel as much? We want to make sure we are empowering clinicians - not only gynecologists, but also our primary care providers across this province.

We've been working very hard through the work around the Menopause Centre of Excellence but also women's health overall. We are hopeful that we'll have some announcements soon, but it is top of mind for this government.

ELIZABETH SMITH-MCCROSSIN « » : I think the women who came today - who travelled here - were hoping to have a different answer from the minister because the reality is that these wait times exist. The minister can share some of the things that the department has done, but the reality is, even after almost five years, people are still waiting three and a half years for their first appointment and then another two years for the surgery they need - five years. Women are walking around this province or being debilitated because they have to wait for this health care.

Can the minister admit this is not acceptable and make a commitment to make a change to improve women's health care in this province?

MICHELLE THOMPSON « » : Changes are under way; that's what I want women to know across this province - and the people who support - people with uteruses and who identify as women. We are working very hard. We're working with clinicians. We understand that there are wait times. It takes individuals. We need to make sure we have properly trained people. Recruitment and retention efforts are under way.

We need to make sure we have the right technology. We're looking at equipment and investing in things like the Deanne Reeve Pelvic Health Suite to help make sure that we have the appropriate facilities in order to care for women across this province. We're strengthening gynecological care in our regional hospitals in order to make sure we have a hub-and-spoke model so that rural women can also access care.

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We understand. We are working very hard with the experts and with clinicians across the province in order to deliver women's health.

THE SPEAKER « » : Order.

The honourable member for Halifax Needham.

SNS: FIXED-TERM LEASE LOOPHOLE - CLOSE

SUZY HANSEN « » : This government knows that fixed-term leases are being abused, yet they refuse to take action. The average increase for a new lease is 28 percent - well above the 5 percent cap the government has in place. Fixed-term leases allow this to happen.

When will the minister responsible for Housing finally protect renters by closing the fixed-term lease loophole?

HON. JILL BALSER « » : Speaker, we are making significant investments in housing. When we look at the housing action plan that the minister had brought forward under Growth and Development, we are exceeding our housing targets.

Our focus right now is to make sure that Nova Scotians have affordable housing and that we're making the investments in all housing options. Also, in addition to that, there is the investment in public housing.

We're going to continue to make life more affordable for Nova Scotians as we think of all the work that we have to do. We want to make sure that we're going to continue to grow the province in the way that we need to to give Nova Scotians options. As we continue to invest in housing, Nova Scotians will have choice that they deserve and they need.

SUZY HANSEN « » : The minister must be tired of giving the same talking points. I'm tired of asking the same question, and I'm not the only one. At Public Bills Committee earlier this week, a community legal worker with Dalhousie Legal Aid said she felt like a broken record - which is sometimes what happens here in this House - talking about fixed-term leases. This problem has been brought up so many times by so many people, yet this government refuses to listen or act.

If the minister isn't listening to the renters, the experts, or the legal workers, who are all saying the same thing, who is the minister actually listening to?

THE SPEAKER « » : The honourable Minister of Growth and Development.

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HON. COLTON LEBLANC « » : We're not shying away from the need to make investments in housing. We know, again, that the answer to the situation that we're facing across this province - not just here in HRM, but from Yarmouth to Sydney - is a supply issue. That's why we're making targeted investments to communities - with municipalities - working alongside the federal government on partnerships to build more across this province.

Not once have I heard a policy item come from the NDP to increase supply. What they have done is vote against every single budget item that would increase supply and increase supports to Nova Scotians. They voted against increases to rent supplements. They voted against public housing bills, and a lot more than that, too.

THE SPEAKER « » : The honourable member for Sackville-Cobequid.

LSI: OVERTIME LAWS - EXPLAIN

PAUL WOZNEY « » : We've all heard the Premier say, "If it's good enough for other provinces, then it's good enough for Nova Scotia." But that's not true when it comes to fairness for workers. Nova Scotia's overtime laws are among the worst in the country. Workers here need to work 48 hours before seeing a dime of overtime. That's an entire extra workday, compared to most other provinces.

Will the Minister of Labour, Skills and Immigration explain why this government forces hard-working Nova Scotians to work an entire extra day before they earn overtime pay?

HON. NOLAN YOUNG « » : The Labour Standards Code provides a minimum - it's not a maximum but a minimum level. Collective agreements are often negotiated for stronger provisions. For example, hospital workers will get four-hour callback, versus the three-hour minimum. We're constantly listening; we're engaging with our stakeholders, and we're following what's happening in other jurisdictions.

PAUL WOZNEY « » : A minority of workers in this province are unionized, and the Labour Standards Code is the minimum protection for them in the workplace, and it's the sole responsibility of the minister and the government.

Most other provinces have recognized that fair overtime rules are a basic protection for workers, yet in Nova Scotia this government insists on leaving workers behind. It's hurting families already struggling to make ends meet, and it's hurting our ability to do things like get housing built. Will this government finally act and put Nova Scotia's workers on a level playing field with workers in other provinces?

NOLAN YOUNG « » : Of course, we believe in appropriate protections for workers. Our Labour Standards Code provides minimum robust standards. As I mentioned before, many workers in this province have added benefits. Changes to codes are best advanced through robust conciliation with employees and employers.

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THE SPEAKER « » : The honourable member for Halifax Chebucto.

GAD: COMMERCIAL RENTS - CAP

KRISTA GALLAGHER « » : It's a tough time to be a small business owner in Nova Scotia. Since the Premier has taken office, commercial rents have increased by nearly 30 percent, and they have risen faster and higher in Nova Scotia than in any other province. Will the minister commit to capping commercial rents for small businesses?

HON. COLTON LEBLANC « » : We recognize the importance of small businesses across this province. They contribute to the vitality of our bright and prosperous province, bringing employment to our local communities, supporting different charities and fundraisers that are so important to Nova Scotia.

We've been there to support small businesses. I don't have to speak too long about Nova Scotia Loyal, a resounding success that we're continuing to grow across this province. Again, I'll remind the member, they voted against the New Small Business Tax Deduction that we brought to this province.

KRISTA GALLAGHER « » : Still, small businesses are struggling. The hits just keep coming. Tariffs are raising the costs, and many have lost customers because they can no longer afford to ship to the U.S. Then they get hit with surprise bills when their landlords decide to pass on CAM costs and extra building maintenance fees. Will this government commit to make business easier for small independent businesses and force landlords to be transparent about common area maintenance fees?

COLTON LEBLANC « » : My commitment to Nova Scotian small businesses and businesses of all sizes is strong. We want to see the business community in this province continue to grow. We will continue to support them, whether it be with export development programs, whether it be helping drive innovation productivity through innovation rebate programs, whether it be looking at different tax credits.

We know that there is so much work to do, but there's so much opportunity for Nova Scotian businesses. We know that helping them through these challenging times and diversifying their markets is of utmost importance. That's why we're working across the country. The Premier's leadership in breaking down internal trade barriers has been recognized by the CFIB. I couldn't be prouder of this government's leadership. We'll continue to be there to support Nova Scotian businesses.

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THE SPEAKER « » : The honourable member for Timberlea-Prospect.

DHW: BREAST CANCER SCREENING:

LACK OF SUPP. SCREENING - EXPLAIN

HON. IAIN RANKIN « » : I want to ask an important question during Breast Cancer Awareness Month. My former colleague Rafah DiCostanzo advocated for the government to address gaps in screening for women with dense breasts, an issue she courageously raised after her own experience. Each year, thousands of Nova Scotia women will find out they're Category C or D, meaning not only do they have a higher risk of breast cancer, but mammograms are less likely to detect it. Despite this, no supplementary screening is offered here.

My question to the Minister of Health and Wellness: Why is the government telling women first that they are higher risk and then leaving them without access to follow-up tests that they need?

HON. MICHELLE THOMPSON « » : I appreciate the advocacy efforts of our former colleague, Rafah DiCostanzo.

I just want to make sure that folks understand that there is an automatic recall of individuals in the breast screening program for women with Category D density just to make sure that, on a regular basis, they are recalled. They do have access to high-risk screening if they are deemed high risk under a recognized risk model. Also, the work that's happening around the Canadian Partnership Against Cancer - we're looking at Nova Scotia and participating in simulation and modelling to support clinical evidence.

IAIN RANKIN « » : My understanding is that six other provinces already have supplementary screening for dense breasts, but Nova Scotia does not. We know that supplementary screening, like ultrasounds or MRIs, can detect cancer earlier, when survival rates are higher and treatments are less invasive. Dense Breasts Canada has been clear that women continue to have later stage diagnoses here that are avoidable because of this gap.

My question to the minister is: If it's good enough for most of the rest of the country, why isn't it good enough for here in Nova Scotia?

MICHELLE THOMPSON « » : We may have different information because it's my understanding that there is not publicly funded supplemental screening unless someone meets high-risk criteria across the province, but it is important to note that Nova Scotia is involved with the modelling and with the research that's happening. We continue to work with the experts. We work across Canada to understand what the best and emerging evidence is. We need to understand women's health, how we access the care we need, and what infrastructure needs are required. If the evidence changes, we will change, but we cannot change - as I have said before - clinical pathways on the floor of this Legislature. I don't feel it's responsible. We'll continue to work with the experts. They were at the Health Committee within the last year to explain their position.

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THE SPEAKER « » : The honourable member for Halifax Atlantic.

SLTC: HOME CARE WORKERS: LACK OF RESPITE CARE - ADDRESS

ROD WILSON « » : Speaker, one in three Nova Scotians cares for a loved one at home. On average in Nova Scotia, that's 30 hours per week for 4.8 years. Caregiving for someone at home is physically and emotionally demanding, and caregivers often need a break. However, when they seek out respite care in Nova Scotia, they often can't get that care because of the long wait times. This leaves families in crisis and scrambling. I'm sure many members here have found themselves the same situation.

This is why I ask the minister: Will the minister show their support for caregivers in Nova Scotia by increasing the number of beds and access to respite care in a timely manner?

HON. BARBARA ADAMS « » : With the few seconds that I have, number one: The first thing that we did was that we increased staffing in the province in order to open up all the closed respite beds that were closed under the previous government. Number two: We expanded home care by almost 33 percent. We opened up five brand new nursing homes in the province. We fund Caregivers Nova Scotia and the Caregiver Benefit, and there is no one who cares more about caregivers in this province than I do.

THE SPEAKER « » : Order, please. The time allotted for Oral Questions Put by Members to Ministers has expired.

GOVERNMENT BUSINESS

THE SPEAKER « » : The honourable Government House Leader.

HON. BRENDAN MAGUIRE » : Speaker, would you please call order of business Government Motions.

GOVERNMENT MOTIONS

THE SPEAKER « » : The honourable Government House Leader.

HON. BRENDAN MAGUIRE « » : Speaker, I move that you do now leave the Chair and the House resolve itself into the Committee of the Whole House on Bills.

THE SPEAKER « » : The motion is carried.

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We will have a short recess while the committee sets up.

[2:34 p.m. The House rose and resolved into the CWH on Bills with Deputy Speaker John White in the Chair.]

[5:17 p.m. CWH on Bills rose and the House reconvened. The Speaker, Hon. Danielle Barkhouse, resumed the Chair.]

THE SPEAKER « » : Order. The Chair of the Committee of the Whole House on Bills reports:

THE CLERK » : That the Committee of the Whole House on Bills has met and considered the following bills:

Bill No. 137 - Making Business Easier Act.

Bill No. 141 - Municipal Modernization (2025) Act.

Bill No. 144 - Workers' Compensation Act (amended).

Bill No. 150 - Freedom of Information and Protection of Privacy Act.

each without amendments, and

Bill No. 149 - Powering the Offshore Act.

with certain amendments. The Chair has been instructed to recommend these bills to the favourable consideration of the House.

THE SPEAKER « » : Ordered that these bills be read a third time on a future day.

The honourable Government House Leader.

HON. BRENDAN MAGUIRE « » : Speaker, would you please call the order of business Public Bills and Orders.

PUBLIC BILLS AND ORDERS

THE SPEAKER « » : The honourable Government House Leader.

HON. BRENDAN MAGUIRE « » : Speaker, would you please call the order of business Public Bills for Third Reading.

[PUBLIC BILLS FOR THIRD READING]

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THE SPEAKER « » : The honourable Government House Leader.

HON. BRENDAN MAGUIRE « » : Speaker, would you please call Bill No. 130.

Bill No. 130 - Traffic Safety Act.

THE SPEAKER « » : The honourable Minister of Public Works.

HON. FRED TILLEY « » : Before I start, I would be remiss - I didn't have a chance to do this earlier today, but today is my parents' 60^th wedding anniversary. I just wanted to wish them a happy anniversary. It is also my wife's and my 32^nd anniversary today. I know Jean feels like she was at the first part of responsible government as well. It seems like that long, for sure.

Speaker, I move that Bill No. 130 be now read a third time.

I am very proud today to rise in the Legislature to speak about the Traffic Safety Act and the many improvements it will deliver for Nova Scotians. The legislation modernizes the rules of the road across the province. It will protect pedestrians, cyclists, motorcyclists, construction workers, and other vulnerable users. It will implement distracted driving rules that address current and future technology, create an inclusive framework for cyclists, update municipal authorities and responsibilities, and create a framework to improve child passenger safety, driver visibility, and vehicle condition standards. It will also allow for clarity of rules for emergency vehicles, school buses, and emerging vehicle types. Bill No. 130 will replace the Motor Vehicle Act, which has elements that date back to the early 1900s.

It also replaces the Traffic Safety Act that was passed in 2018, with all-party support. Today's legislation respects the intent of the 2018 Act by creating a flexible framework that prioritizes the safety of all Nova Scotians. On this point, I want to be very clear: This is the same Act. We are repealing the 2018 bill to provide transparency and to deliver the much-needed flexibility framework sooner.

Some elements have moved from legislation to regulations. This further enhances our flexibility to adapt to the rapid changes we see in transportation. Some details have been updated to reflect the vast amount of feedback we received, as well as the recent rapid changes in technology. But the essence of the legislation remains the same: improving road safety for all Nova Scotians.

The previous Traffic Safety Act and draft regulations were just too complex. By taking this approach, we can deliver a modern set of laws years sooner than would otherwise be possible. I know it has taken a long time to get to this point, but it's an enormous task involving a large number of dedicated partners.

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On second reading, I thanked many of the partners. I'm going to do that again. But I would also like to recognize that this has been a long process, and while I'm tabling this bill, there were many other folks and other ministers, who were involved in it. I want to acknowledge the late Lloyd Hines and Minister Masland, who also worked very hard on this bill.

I'd like to start by recognizing staff on third reading as well. I'll start with Diane Zwicker. As I mentioned, she graciously came out of retirement to help us untangle this Act and update 100 years of rules. Originally, her commitment was for a few months, and now it's been several years, and we're very grateful for her work. I'd also like to thank lead lawyer, Nadine Smillie, and all of her colleagues at the Department of Justice. Gratitude to Victoria Horne and Mike Christian, and everyone at the Departments of Service Nova Scotia and Cyber Security and Digital Solutions.

We wouldn't be here without many partners, police organizations, municipalities, businesses, the Insurance Bureau of Canada, cycling and pedestrian groups, engineers, traffic specialists, child safety advocates, and so many others. And to the everyday Nova Scotians, who over the years took the time to share their experiences and insights on important road safety issues, thank you. Finally, I would like to thank everyone at the Department of Public Works, including Policy Lead Bonnie Rankin, and everyone in our Registry of Motor Vehicles team for their hard work.

These are only a few of the people who have been involved in bringing the TSA to the Legislature, but it gives you an idea what a massive undertaking this has been. Over the past four years we have made significant progress implementing new technology that will modernize the Registry of Motor Vehicles and improve services for citizens.

When this legislation is proclaimed and implemented in 2026, it will impact every Nova Scotian. We want this transition to be as seamless as possible for Nova Scotians, law enforcement agencies, and Nova Scotian businesses. That's why we've taken the time to find the best approach and get this right.

Speaker, I started these remarks by saying I was proud to speak on Bill No. 130. We have found a way to deliver the Traffic Safety Act sooner. Our approach does not change the original intent of 2018. Most importantly, it does not compromise the safety of Nova Scotians. What's not to be proud of?

I certainly hope the members of this Legislature and the members of the public see this as a great day for transportation in our province. That's why I encourage everyone to learn more about this Act and provide your feedback at novascotia.ca/tsa. We'll be resuming our consultations with our partners, and they can expect to hear from us very soon.

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THE SPEAKER « » : The honourable member for Cape Breton Centre-Whitney Pier.

KENDRA COOMBES « » : I want to take some time to discuss this bill and to say there are some really good things - a lot of good things - in this bill. Our interventions during Committee of the Whole House on Bills was only to strengthen this bill. This government has no opposition from us on this bill. As I said, our interventions were to strengthen.

In my constituency, and talking as the critic for the Department of Public Works, I talk to many people. One of the biggest things that was asked for was for municipalities to set their own speed limits. This was a bill brought forward a few times in this House. We are happy to see that the government has taken that suggestion and has put it forward in a bill. If I'm not mistaken, I think it was missing from the last bill.

I also want to thank the minister for taking into consideration things - I know that my office - myself included - has sent him from constituents and from others across the province, which are the red-light cameras at intersections. All of these tools will only help strengthen and protect our residents, especially our vulnerable road users.

Speaker, that is one of the only places in this bill where I deviate from the minister, in that I believe that there needs to be clear definitions of vulnerable road users to ensure that one, nothing is missed. B.C. probably had one of the most comprehensive definitions that also left some stuff to regulations. I think that was one of the best definitions, so I hope that the minister has kept that amendment that I put forward in Committee of the Whole House on Bills and would consider that amendment during regulations.

Again, I am thankful that we did not go a decade before we finally had the Traffic Safety Act. We were getting pretty close but I'm glad we haven't. I'm glad we're here. I hope it's proclaimed and that we can get started on the ins and outs of enforcing this Act.

THE SPEAKER « » : The honourable member for Sydney-Membertou.

HON. DEREK MOMBOURQUETTE « » : Very quickly, I just want to stand on my feet on the record as a caucus. We support the bill. We are aware lots of work went into this over a vast period of time. We all want our roads to be as safe as possible for Nova Scotians and visitors alike. I just wanted to be on the record. As a caucus, we support the bill.

THE SPEAKER « » : The honourable member for Cumberland North.

ELIZABETH SMITH-MCCROSSIN « » : I also rise to give my support to this bill, the Traffic Safety Act. I also wanted to join my colleagues in thanking former minister Hines as well as a former Minister of Public Works, the MLA from Queens. I know there was a lot of work put into this by the department staff. We have pretty incredible people who work in all the government departments.

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In particular, those of us who live in rural Nova Scotia, we get to know the people who work in the Department of Public Works because in rural Nova Scotia roads matter. We love the smell of asphalt. We love our beautifully gravelled roads. On that note, I want to give a shoutout to the two area managers that I work with, Chris Verge as well as Adam Cameron.

One point I did want to bring out that I'm happy to see in this bill is the ability for municipalities to change the speed limit. It's something that I have discussed in our yearly meetings and ongoing with our local people. We have several roads, in particular in cottage country, where the speed limit of the provincial road is 50 kilometres an hour, and it's way too fast for the number of cottages and people who are living in a very small, concentrated area.

In fact, in one of the meetings that I had with staff, when I was explaining to them, they actually brought it up on Google Earth to see for themselves, in particular Heather Beach. You literally could be driving and put a golf club out the window and touch a cottage. the cottages are right there. I'll be really pleased that our municipality will be able to lower that speed limit. Local people want it to be definitely down to 30 kilometres an hour. Thank you for that change.

Once again, thank you to all the staff who prepared this bill.

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THE SPEAKER « » : If I recognize the minister, it will be to close the debate.

The honourable Minister of Public Works.

HON. FRED TILLEY « » : Thank you, Speaker, and thank you to my colleagues for their comments on the bill. I look forward to proclamation and making roads safer for Nova Scotians.

With that, Speaker, I move to close debate on Bill No. 130.

THE SPEAKER « » : The motion is for third reading of Bill No. 130.

All those in favour? Contrary minded? Thank you.

The motion is carried.

Ordered that this bill do pass. Ordered that the title be as read by the Clerk. Ordered that the bill be engrossed.

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The honourable Government House Leader.

HON. BRENDAN MAGUIRE « » : Speaker, would you please call Bill No. 134.

Bill No. 134 - Justice Administration Amendment (Fall 2025) Act.

THE SPEAKER « » : The honourable Minister of Justice.

HON. BECKY DRUHAN « » : I move third reading of Bill No. 134.

I am pleased to rise to speak to Bill No. 134, introducing legislative improvements to seven justice statutes, the Civil Forfeiture Act, the Auditor General Act, and the Order of Nova Scotia Act. Together these changes are part of government's ongoing commitment to improve access to justice, modernize legislation, make services more efficient, and ensure our laws reflect the needs and expectations of Nova Scotians.

I appreciate the comments and questions of members opposite during second reading and in Committee of the Whole House, and I will address some of those in my remarks. I want to start by highlighting some of the key changes happening under this Act:

First, we are repealing outdated requirements in the Legal Profession Act and Cape Breton Barristers Society Act that dealt with fees for law stamps;

Second, we're amending the Fatality Investigations Act to allow the minister to designate another qualified member of a Death Review Committee to serve as Chair, in place of the Chief Medical Examiner and to allow the Chief Medical Examiner to designate another medical examiner to sit on a Death Review Committee;

Third, amendments to the Interjurisdictional Support Orders Act and the Parenting and Support Act will allow certain child support applications to move through an administrative process instead of a court process;

Fourth, the Juries Act will be amended to align with the Criminal Code;

Fifth, changes to the Probate Act will expand to who can take affidavits related to wills; and

Sixth, in addition, the bill introduces an administrative forfeiture process, allowing uncontested seizure of property of crime, valued at under $125,000, to proceed without lengthy and costly court proceedings. Changes will also optimize the use of forfeiture funds, ensuring even greater support for victims of crime and community-based crime prevention initiatives.

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Speaker, a few questions were posed about this bill, and they focused predominantly on how the bill will improve case flow in courts. I want to address that. This really comes about as a result of a number of measures. Some small efficiencies will be created as a result of the amendments that we are putting forward. One of those is that removing the requirement for law stamps and the associated fees that come with those law stamps reduces costs and eliminates an unnecessary step in submissions to court.

Another small efficiency arises as a result of expanding the number of people available to take affidavits related to wills. That will make that step more accessible and will make probate matters more efficient.

The final small change I want to mention is the alignment of the Juries Act with the Criminal Code, in terms of who has jury eligibility. That will prevent uncertainty and potential challenges that could arise as a result of the current inconsistency that exists there.

Those are small efficiencies that, added up, make a difference. However, there are some significant improvements for case flow that will be created through the new administrative procedures. Those are procedures associated with child support and civil forfeitures.

What exactly does that mean? That means that families will be able to have child support matters addressed outside of the court process, improving access and efficiency, allowing folks easier, faster, more accessible resolution to issues, not needing to go before the courts to have those addressed.

In addition, administrative processes will be created for uncontested civil forfeitures. Those, too, will be allowed to proceed outside the court process, freeing up court resources. These will create paths outside court procedures for uncontested matters. These are matters that are not challenged. As a result, we will free up those court resources to focus on contested matters, which is where we want our courts to be spending their time.

Collectively, these changes represent meaningful progress toward a justice system that is more responsive, efficient, and accessible.

Before I close, I do want to speak generally to the civil forfeiture amendments. Civil forfeiture is an important tool that allows government to seize proceeds of crime and redirect those funds toward victims and crime prevention initiatives, but the Act, first introduced more than a decade ago, needs updating to keep pace with evolving criminal activity. Our proposed amendments will do just that. They create stronger, more efficient tools to combat organized crime, moneylending, laundering, and the illegal proceeds of crime. They will also mean more resources directed back into communities to support prevention and to support healing.

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Finally, I am so proud and appreciative of the hard work of department staff in bringing this legislation together. They are skilled, dedicated, and committed to justice in service of Nova Scotians, and I want to acknowledge their incredible contribution and their efforts.

With those comments, I invite further comments on Bill No. 134 at third reading.

THE SPEAKER « » : The honourable member for Fairview-Clayton Park.

LINA HAMID « » : I'm going to be speaking briefly. I want to start by saying thank you to the minister for addressing the questions that were posed during the previous readings. That does basically answer the questions that we had. I do appreciate that. It's much appreciated. That's all I have to say.

THE SPEAKER « » : The honourable member for Sydney-Membertou.

HON. DEREK MOMBOURQUETTE « » : Quickly, we're in support of the bill - appreciate it coming forward. We're happy to see some of the regulations and some of the parts of the bill that have been cleaned up and revised. Again, we want to be on the record as a caucus in support of the bill.

THE SPEAKER « » : The honourable member for Cumberland North.

ELIZABETH SMITH-MCCROSSIN « » : I also stand in support of the bill. I did bring up some concerns during the Committee of the Whole House on Bills. I'm grateful to see some of the small efficiencies that the minister did share. If I could - I know this isn't part of the contents of the bill, but I do want to make a couple of comments in general about justice, since we are here for such a short period of time.

One of the things that I wanted to talk about while we're here this fall session, on behalf of the people I represent, is the concerns with our justice system and the lack of - the delays in court times - in court delays. People are frustrated with the number of criminals who are arrested and then released right away on bail back into the communities to often reoffend. Too many criminals are not even being tried because of Jordan's rule and because of the court delays. People who have been charged with things like sexual assault and other terrible crimes are not even being tried because of the court delays - because of Jordan's rule and the court delays.

I wanted to mention that and be on the record to ask the minister to please make this a priority on behalf of all Nova Scotians, including the people whom I represent in Cumberland North. People are getting tired of having to deal with criminals, and law enforcement is telling me the number one problem they're dealing with is court delays. They're frustrated, too. It's discouraging for law enforcement when they are making the arrests, and then people are being put right back onto the street and then often not ever even getting to court because of the long delays. That needs to be a priority by this government.

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I was at a public meeting in Wentworth, where my colleague for Cumberland South spoke and told the crowd of over 300 people that there wasn't anything the government could do about the crime and the delays, but that is not true. Our provincial government funds public prosecutors as well as judges at our provincial court.

I wanted to be on the record saying those few comments, Speaker, but I will support Bill No. 134. Thank you very much.

THE SPEAKER « » : If I recognize the minister, it will be to close the debate.

The honourable Minister of Justice.

HON. BECKY DRUHAN « » : Speaker, I just want to say that I do appreciate the support of colleagues in this bill. I think these are really important amendments. I'm glad to see there is support for that.

With that being said, I move to close debate on third reading of Bill No. 134.

THE SPEAKER « » : The motion is for third reading of Bill No. 134.

All those in favour? Contrary minded? Thank you.

The motion is carried.

Ordered that this bill do pass. Ordered that the title be as read by the Clerk. Ordered that the bill be engrossed.

The honourable member for Dartmouth North.

SUSAN LEBLANC « » : Speaker, may I just pop up to do a quick introduction, please?

THE SPEAKER « » : Please do.

SUSAN LEBLANC « » : Speaker, in the gallery above me - that gallery - there are some land protectors visiting the Legislature today. They have been spending time on Hunters Mountain, blocking or protecting the woods and the moose there. What they're doing on the mountain could become against the law in a couple of minutes, when Bill No. 127 is debated for the third time.

I'm very humbled to be asked to introduce them in the House today. I would like, as I say their names, for them to stand and be welcomed by the House. With us tonight are Michelle Paul . . .

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THE SPEAKER « » : Order.

Never mind, keep going.

SUSAN LEBLANC « » : Michelle Paul, Tuma Sakej Wilson, and grandmother Patricia Stephens. I believe Darlene Gilbert is up there. Also with the land protectors tonight is Zoe MacDonald, who is an ally and has been working with them on the mountain.

I ask the House to give the land protectors a very warm welcome. (Applause)

THE SPEAKER « » : Welcome to the House. We hope you enjoy your time here.

The honourable Government House Leader.

HON. BRENDAN MAGUIRE « » : Speaker, would you please call Bill No. 127.

Bill No. 127 - Protecting Nova Scotians Act.

THE SPEAKER « » : The honourable Minister of Service Nova Scotia.

HON. JILL BALSER « » : Speaker, I move that Bill No. 127 be now read a third time.

I want to recognize and thank everyone for the comments that were brought forward in Public Bills and the comments, of course, from my colleagues in the House during second reading, and then, of course, during Committee of the Whole House.

This is a bill that takes into consideration the interests of all Nova Scotians, to not only protect their personal safety but to protect their personal information as well. I shared before that this bill responds to recent events that have happened in our province. This bill is a direct response. Some of those events I'll just outline now.

It's a direct response to the Nova Scotia Power breach, when more than 140,000 Nova Scotians had their information stolen, including social insurance numbers.

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The amendments we are introducing to the Residential Tenancies Act respond to the tragic epidemic in domestic violence. We are also amending the Act to give Nova Scotians greater access to affordable housing.

Amendments to the Liquor Control Act will help to keep both bar staff and patrons safe in licensed establishments. It is critical to do so if we are to prevent any more tragic events from ever happening again in our province.

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The amendments to the Embalmers and Funeral Directors Act and to the Cemetery and Funeral Services Act will strengthen consumer protection, clarify authority for final arrangements, and support consistent service standards.

The Protecting Nova Scotians Act represents a great deal of work from my department, specifically, which I want to be able to highlight, but it includes multiple departments and lots of work that we have to acknowledge from the teams that put this work together.

I want to be able to focus on the work from the Department of Service Nova Scotia and to highlight the team in my department. Staff have been working incredibly hard to ensure amendments to Service Nova Scotia's legislation portion reflect what we were hearing from partners and respect Nova Scotians' lived experiences. I want to thank them for their work and remind them of the difference, for the better, that they are making for Nova Scotians from one end or the province to the other.

I will start with the newest Act in the province: The Social Insurance Number Protection Act. The Act will introduce new restrictions to private companies in collecting and retaining social insurance numbers. As mentioned, this is in response to what Nova Scotians have seen and experienced with the cyberbreach with Nova Scotia Power. We recognize that it was important for government to provide Nova Scotians with the protections that they needed.

I know that all members will agree that social insurance numbers are a sensitive piece of personal information, and they need to be protected. This bill will prohibit the collection of social insurance numbers for commercial activities in Nova Scotia, unless permitted by regulations.

Businesses may still request a social insurance number where it is required by law, for example, for income tax reporting purposes. Government will be permitted to collect social insurance numbers to administer programs and services, and the retention periods for social insurance numbers will be set in regulations to come.

I want to take a moment to remind people and all Nova Scotians that providing their social insurance number is optional in most situations. It's always important to ask questions around their personal information and why it is being collected. This is another measure that we can take as citizens to make sure that we are doing what we can to protect our own personal information.

I want to take a moment now to talk about the amendments that we are making to the Residential Tenancies Act. A year ago in this Legislature, we passed legislation that everyone supported there, declaring intimate partner violence as an epidemic in our province. We know and we recognize intimate partner violence as being an epidemic long before 2024, but by passing that legislation, we all acknowledged the seriousness and the importance of the issue and making sure that action is to come.

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We've heard colleagues in this House talk about how we are taking an all-of-government approach around gender-based violence and intimate partner violence, and I am pleased that now Service Nova Scotia can be added to that list, and we can make a contribution to that all-of-government approach.

We are amending the Residential Tenancies Act to give victims of domestic violence the opportunity to stay in their homes. This change builds on what the Act currently says. They were provisions that will allow a lease reassignment, which is still true and possible. These new amendments will sever the lease with their partner, making it possible for a victim to move on and have a fresh start.

In second reading, I was also able to highlight where this bill goes further, and I am proud of this portion. To make sure that the conversation doesn't stop here, but it continues, we will be the first province exploring rights and supports for occupants, and that means more work to be done.

As I mentioned, I am excited to make sure that I'm working hand-in-hand with the Minister responsible for the Advisory Council on the Status of Women Act to make sure that we are speaking with community partners and folks with lived experience, to make sure that we get that occupant piece absolutely right for the best of Nova Scotians.

We also recognize that there's further work when we look at caregivers and others. Again, I wanted to take a moment to highlight that because I think it's significant.

We are making another amendment to the Residential Tenancies Act. We are amending the Residential Tenancies Act to create more affordable housing options: boarders, defined as those who share a kitchen or a bathroom with their homeowner, will no longer be considered tenants under the Residential Tenancies Act. That also highlights the difference, recognizing that a boarder and a homeowner, that relationship is different than that of a landlord and a tenant.

But I also want to make sure that we highlight that the protections of the rent cap are still in place for boarders. I also want to clarify that this amendment will not reduce income assistance benefits to clients who are boarders. I know that that was recognized as a concern, so I just wanted to make sure that I address that. This amendment will bring us in line with all provinces and territories in the country, with the exception of one. We are taking this step to help homeowners feel comfortable in renting out spare rooms in their home.

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I also want to acknowledge that this came from a conversation that I had directly in my constituency, with a housing advocacy group, the Digby & Area Housing Coalition. I want to thank them for taking their time to bring this forward to me. We have to look at options for housing in all different ways, as we've discussed in this House on many occasions. We truly believe by making these changes, we can open up more rooms in people's homes for those who are still looking for housing, as a safe option for Nova Scotians who need it.

We are also amending the Embalmers and Funeral Directors Act as mentioned, and the Cemetery and Funeral Services Act, to strengthen the rules and regulations for funeral services, including introducing some of the strongest laws in Canada to prevent wrongful cremations. This is a direct result of two unfortunate situations that happened in our province, where two wrongful cremations took place.

We made sure that we spoke with community partners and shared information on how we can go further to make sure that we do have the strongest protections in place for Nova Scotians. I want to thank the team and everyone who brought forward input during that process, because their voices are reflected in this particular change.

The Liquor Control Act is being amended to introduce new rules for bouncers to improve safety for patrons in licensed establishments. The amendments will allow the regulation of bouncers and other security staff employed by liquor licensees. Liquor licensees can currently employ anyone to work as a bouncer. These individuals may not be adequately trained and may have criminal records that include violent offences. In recent years we heard directly from families around how and what happened in the past.

Again, wanting to make sure that through the Liquor Control Act we were making changes for the better, so Nova Scotians could be given expanded authority to make inquiries in relation to employees of licensed establishments including bouncers. Liquor licensees will be required to ensure that their security staff meet the prescribed regulatory requirements for training and conduct. Safety and security matters within licensed premises will be added to the responsibilities of the Minister of Service Nova Scotia.

I want to thank everyone who came forward to share, not only their personal experiences, but for everyone to recognize the work that has gone into this particular bill. I want to thank the Minister of Justice for also making sure that we had the opportunity to meet with families who brought forward their personal concerns and recognizing that the changes we are making in the Liquor Control Act are a positive change for our province.

With those words, I do look forward to the comments of colleagues on all sides of the House.

THE SPEAKER « » : The honourable member for Dartmouth South.

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CLAUDIA CHENDER « » : I rise to make just a few comments about Bill No. 127, the government's omnibus bill - a bill that lumps together help for survivors of gender-based violence with the disposal of human remains; licensing for bouncers with the stripping of protection for renters; and changes to social insurance numbers with a violation of constitutional rights for land protectors.

It's hard to know where to begin. There are some good things. There are some bad things. At the end of the day, as many of us have said many times, these are things that don't go together. We shouldn't be debating all of this together. And I think it's a trick. I await the press release about how negative we were about supports for victims of gender-based violence and how we spoke against a bill that protected social insurance numbers.

I'm going to endeavour to just say a couple things about the highlights of this bill, so that - on the record - we can give an indication of what we think about each of these provisions because they don't go together.

I'm going to start with what's not in this bill - this cornerstone of the government's legislation this sitting. Contrary a bit to the minister's remarks, there's nothing to open up affordable housing. Rents have gone up $4,400 per year for the average renter. In HRM, you can't - it's difficult to find a home for less than $500,000. In the rest of the province, it's at least doubled or tripled - the price of a home.

We don't see a solution for any of that in this key piece of legislation for the government. That's really a shame. The fact that we see the stripping of protection for tenants framed as affordable housing strains credulity, truly.

In terms of the Residential Tenancies amendment, we have a lot of questions. I hear the minister when she says that there's more work to do on how we protect those occupants, but with respect, that should come forward before they are removed from the Residential Tenancies Act.

There is a long history, in Dartmouth, where I live, and all parts of the province of rooming houses where folks struggling to get by have been taken advantage of. This bill paves the way for that possibility. Maybe a few more people will rent a room in their home because there's less red tape, but those people need to be protected.

Social insurance numbers: We have said a lot about this. We've introduced amendments. Again, we hear a lot about how people should know about Residential Tenancies. People should ask questions about - if they're asked for their social insurance number. We also know - all of us know from the people in our offices - that people don't. They don't.

If someone - particularly someone who is not used to dealing with a financial institution or a service provider - and they say, "Okay, hon, I just need your social insurance number," they usually give it. That's why we have so many instances of fraud and identity theft.

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Education campaigns on that are good and important but not sufficient. This provision around social insurance numbers is good, it's necessary, and it is not at all sufficient.

The Minister of Growth and Development and the Premier seem to disagree on whether this is retroactive, but I am going to side with the Minister of Growth and Development when he says this does not place an onus on companies, and in particular Nova Scotia Power, to dispose of the social insurance numbers that they currently have or collected in the past. It's not retroactive. That's a problem.

We're not allowing people to request a credit freeze. We're not protecting people from this kind of fraud in the future, and I think that's worrying.

One of the things I have heard most from constituents in the last couple months is, "Please, rein in Nova Scotia Power. Find a way to lower our bills. Find a way to hold them accountable." Even the regulator has criticized this company for not doing everything it can. We don't even know if ratepayers - spoiler alert: ratepayer and taxpayer are the same thing; that's us - are going to be on the hook for this privacy breach if it's going to get charged back to us. That is horrific, and nothing deals with that here.

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The Liquor Control Act: We heard from the minister what this does - it regulates bouncers serving alcohol - and SISA, which was the bill that was originally introduced, would regulate the security industry as a whole. I think as recently as last weekend there was a very violent incident in a bar downtown. This happens all the time. If anybody went to high school - anywhere in Nova Scotia but particularly in Halifax - or university, downtown can be a violent place. The people who are left at the front line to regulate that violence, which has resulted in death many times, are not appropriately regulated and trained.

Every member of the Chamber at the time passed legislation that would actually regulate these bouncers in their entirety, the security industry. That bill did not get proclaimed. That is on all of our parties. The New Democrats did not proclaim it; Liberals did not proclaim it; the PCs did not proclaim it. We had an opportunity to do it right and we fell short. This bill falls short.

So it is a good provision and it is not enough. The families - the father of someone who passed away started this fight. He has himself since passed away. His daughter has taken up the torch on behalf of her brother who died. These families have been clear. This is not enough to prevent the tragedies that have already happened.

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The Embalmers and Funeral Directors Act: a great provision. Let us not wrongfully cremate anybody. I know my colleagues will speak to the amendment to the Personal Health Information Act. We have, again on behalf of advocates and families, registered our similar challenges with this provision, which is just that it does not go far enough. As I said yesterday, I think many of us in this Chamber have had close friends or family members, parents or children who have suffered from extreme mental distress. If anyone has been in that position, you know that it is not often a medical professional that is on the front line. It is a family member. Let us give those family members the information they need. This bill in the words of advocates does not do that. It does not go far enough. It could have with a simple change that would bring it in line other jurisdictions. If it is good enough for other jurisdictions, it is good enough for us but apparently not in this case.

The amendment to the Crown Lands Act: I am going to let my colleague speak to this - but this is what seems to be a very innocuous provision. It seems to be innocuous - do not block access to forest access roads - and it would be if we did not have a constitution, but we do. In Section 35 of our constitution, are enshrined the rights of First Nations in this country. We have a number of land protectors who have spoken. We have a number of Mi'kmaq who have spoken. We have a number of people in community, people in leadership who have asked to be consulted and have asked - and I think it is pretty clear this is the choice with this provision. You can consult a group of people who have a constitutional set of rights or you can criminalize them. That is the choice. Consult or criminalize, and this provision chooses to criminalize. I think it is one of the many things that, if it goes forward, will live to haunt this government that is supposed to be legislating on behalf of the people of this province.

That's my overview of the bill. My colleagues will say a few words, but I just want to close by saying that I'm sorry to not have the chance to debate all of these provisions. I'm glad to see the provisions coming forward about the bouncers bill. I'm horrified to see the provisions coming forward about the Crown Lands Act. I'm worried about the provisions coming forward to Residential Tenancies. I think all of that merited a lot more debate, a lot more engagement, a lot more consultation, and the legislation would be a lot better for it and Nova Scotians would be better off.

THE SPEAKER « » : The honourable member for Sydney-Membertou.

HON. DEREK MOMBOURQUETTE « » : I want to get on my feet and say a few words about Bill No. 127. I think I'll start by saying: eight days. An eight-day sitting. A big part of that is because you see bills like Bill No. 127 come forward that have good aspects in them but have nothing in common. Really, what you're starting to see is the government just obviously doesn't want to be in here. It's really unfortunate, because there are some really good pieces in this bill that I'm sure people would have come to talk at the Public Bills Committee about. Here we are. We're probably going to be done tomorrow, which would be a total of eight days.

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I think that actually will be the narrative that will come out of this, unfortunately, because there's some really good stuff here. We passed the Traffic Safety Act, which stood by itself. It's a good Act. A lot of people put a lot of work into it. The Department of Justice came forward with a bill that was a bill on its own. We supported it, debated it, went to Public Bills Committee, people gave consultation. We could have done that with all of this. Why would you want to hide in a bill like this the fact that we all have been hearing from Nova Scotians about Nova Scotia Power and the data breach and the concerns that continue to come not only from the data breach from Nova Scotia Power, but the other data breaches that we've seen, whether they're within government or not?

This is an important conversation that Nova Scotians want to talk about. It's something, I'm sure, that more people would have come to Public Bills Committee to talk about, but again, we're talking about a bill tonight that a lot of things just - they're not in common. I will talk about the bill in its entirety with some comments. I do want to acknowledge that there are provisions in here that respond to some genuine challenges. Nova Scotians deserve better regulations about who can collect social insurance numbers and more protections for tenants who are victims of gender-based violence.

But - and this is a big but - this bill is structured, as I've said, as an omnibus bill. It sweeps together multiple distinct laws, and the government has pushed it through with limited time for public scrutiny, consultation, and debate. The accelerated process poses serious risks to democratic accountability and the quality of the law that we will ask Nova Scotians to accept. An omnibus bill, by definition, bundles many diverse amendments across very different Acts. That magnifies the risks of unintended consequences. Because of that bundling, parts of this bill that will help Nova Scotians are lumped in with sections that will threaten Nova Scotians' basic rights.

I am disappointed that the government has not allowed more time for stakeholders, especially Indigenous communities, tenants, privacy advocates, municipal governments, and environmental groups to meaningfully weigh in. The accelerated timeline limits our ability as MLAs to properly interrogate each component, to hear from experts, and to reflect on amendments.

Let me be clear: I support certain changes in this bill. The new provisions allowing a tenant who terminates a lease due to domestic violence to request a new lease on the same terms, with the landlord not allowed to arbitrarily withhold consent. Those are meaningful, practical protections.

These amendments reflect calls I've heard from constituents and from advocacy groups that tenants facing violence must not be forced into further instability and displacement. Those parts of the bill offer a model of how needed reform should be advanced, clearly motivated by lived experience and capable of benefitting vulnerable people.

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Another part of this bill I can support is the introduction of the Social Insurance Number Protection Act. In an era of increasing cyber threats and identity fraud, we need stronger safeguards against the unnecessary collection, storage, and misuse of social insurance numbers.

This legislation will set a baseline standard for when and how organizations may request social insurance numbers, limiting them to cases where collection is legally required or otherwise justifiable under the regulation to come. I hope that a future government will choose to apply this law to all companies that currently store social insurance numbers, including Nova Scotia Power.

However, we cannot support proposed amendments to the Crown Lands Act in this bill. The amendments would give the minister broad authority to remove or demolish structures on Crown lands without notice and arrest those who are protesting on Crown land. That raises serious concerns about property rights, fairness, and this government's failure to consult, which I talked about at length last night. This part of the bill is exactly why we continue to argue, and as we've seen time and time again, if communities consult, we can solve problems together, and we can grow communities together.

This change was done without consultation, as I've said, and most likely will provoke legal challenges and erode the trust in government that already exists. We've heard many of these concerns from Nova Scotians in the brief time that this bill has been debated. The fact that these provisions are tucked into an omnibus bill makes them harder to contest, harder to amend, and most importantly, harder for the public to understand.

I believe that a standalone bill with thorough consultation, especially for rural, Indigenous, and land-use stakeholders, would be a far more appropriate way to introduce these changes.

The changes proposed to the Personal Health Information Act alter the standard for when information may be disclosed without consent, from imminent to significant danger to simply significant danger. Families and advocates have been calling for better transparency, improved consent regimes, and clearer safeguards for families and vulnerable Nova Scotians. The amendment does not adequately respond to those calls. We've heard that clearly from Nova Scotians' moms, but the government refuses to act on their concerns.

Simply, the changes to the Liquor Control Act extend licensing oversight to security services for licensed premises, permitting more regulatory controls on liquor licence holders. This change does not address what families and communities have asked for: government oversight to ensure that bouncers are properly vetted and trained so Nova Scotians can rest assured that they will be safe and protected by bar security staff. This is another example of a policy change that is completely unresponsive to the concerns of Nova Scotians but is being pushed through this omnibus bill.

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Throughout my time here, I have advocated for legislation that is shaped not just by government and bureaucrats but by Nova Scotians themselves, citizens' community groups, and experts. With Bill No. 127, I am disappointed that we have not seen a level of public engagement that matches the scope of the changes being proposed.

Many Nova Scotians are unaware of the multiple complex changes hidden in this bill. Many may only see their impact after the fact. In debates in second reading and in committee, my colleagues and I have proposed amendments and asked important questions about the impacts of this bill. These concerns remain unaddressed.

Our party will be voting against this bill at third reading, not because we reject every idea contained in it but because its structure, process, and some of its substantive provisions do more harm than good.

I urge the government to reconsider this omnibus approach and pull forward pieces that deserve support into standalone legislation, to pause and consult more broadly, and to revisit the more troubling elements, especially when it comes to the Crown lands, suicide prevention, and bouncer regulations. Nova Scotians deserve nothing less than well-crafted, respectful, and accountable legislation.

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THE SPEAKER « » : The honourable member for Halifax Armdale.

ROD WILSON « » : Speaker, I'd like to speak to the Legislature tonight about concerns I have with this bill, specifically as it relates to PHIA, and specifically the concerns as raised by a Nova Scotia mom.

Normally I can separate my personal life and my professional life, although it's gotten challenging because now I have two professional lives, both physician, MLA, and individual. So tonight I am speaking to you as a physician and MLA, and as a person whose father died by suicide. I am speaking to you not just as an MLA or a minister, but as a person.

I want to, first of all, thank the moms in Nova Scotia for coming forward. I've been with so many moms who've lost their children to suicide and wondered: How did you get out of bed the next day? How did you actually get up and go on? I said this to a mom yesterday. How do you do this? I don't have kids myself and she said: It's my son that has brought me here today.

As I said last night, I think the omnibus bill, for whatever reason, lacks the respect the moms deserved, and the PHIA should have been held out separately and not included in the same bill that speaks about inspecting fish.

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Often we say language is important, and sometimes that can be used for politically correct terms and symbolic terms, but I have to say to you that the language in this PHIA amendment is really important because it could make a difference. When I first heard a couple of months ago what the moms were considering, I was immediately against it. Why? Because it goes against the grain of what I've been taught my entire professional life, that confidentiality is the sacred cow. We cannot share information. We might get sued, but more importantly, it's the fundamental concept of doctor-patient relationship.

I didn't think the language was clear enough, but culturally I was like: We can't do that. As I said last night, do you know how many times I've wanted to call parents and say: I am really worried about your son; or how many times I maybe dropped a hint because I couldn't include them in the care. The moms aren't asking to be parachute doctors. They are not asking for their son's files or medical information. They are asking to be included in the circle of care. They are asking to be involved and heard. They are not asking to change the diagnosis or change the medications. They are just asking to be involved and not shut out.

Again, I think the language that's proposed in this is not clear enough for several reasons. I think moms know best with the language. As a physician, I don't think the language is going to enable me to do anything much differently.

The biggest other issue is - it's change. Change management does not happen quickly. As we know in medicine, a new therapy from the time the trials are done to practice is 10 years. My concern is we are trying to change the cultural shift of physicians to break a sacred cow vow. Is that going to take 10 years? I hope not, but I don't think the language that's being put out here is enough to actually expedite that change.

We heard requests last night for amendments, changes, and while it's the third reading - the eleventh hour, maybe it's not too late. Again, I said, do you know how many times I wished I could call a parent and say: Can you just check on them? I speak to you as a parent or a family member, wouldn't you like to have to know if your child was out somewhere tonight - that someone would call you and say: Can you check on them? I leave that for you.

I think the opportunity is still here. Is it too late? I leave that up to you.

I want to ask you three things - actually, four, before you vote. Could we have separated this out from an omnibus bill? Could we have spent more time on this? Could we have used full language, as recommended by the moms, that would make a difference? The fourth thing is, What if?

So, here we are. I don't know how you vote, and I don't know how you come to decisions as a caucus, but I leave those four questions with you. I do want to ask for a professional courtesy. Regardless of how I vote tonight, please do not say - as someone who has sat by the side of a mom and heard her cry when she lost her second son last June, and as someone who lost their father - please don't say, "He voted against this bill." I ask for that professional courtesy. If you can't separate it out, then don't lump me into a decision that you've forced me to be in. That's for you to decide and act on.

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Here we are: third reading, third bill. There's still an opportunity. It's up to you.

THE SPEAKER « » : The honourable member for Fairview-Clayton Park.

LINA HAMID « » : Speaker, while there's a lot to be said about this omnibus bill, I will be sticking to the part that touches on security - private security provided at bars late at night.

I've said this before, and I'll say it again: It is shameful that families who have been directly impacted, losing loved ones in such a horrific way - in such an avoidable way - have to come to talk to a bunch of folks in suits and tell them why their loved ones should have been better protected and how their loved ones should have been better protected - not once but twice. Both times, this government is insisting on moving forward with whatever they want to move forward with and not listening.

We have put forward legislation that accurately reflects what these families have been lobbying for, and yet, again, nothing. The government's approach in this bill is to regulate bouncers via requirements imposed by security employees under liquor licences. However, again, concerned families at Public Bills indicated a preference for the original wording of SISA - which, again, was passed in 2011. It was just never proclaimed. As my colleague mentioned, that's on every party in here.

However, the extra stab was putting together a bill that made anything unproclaimed as if it never happened. That's a shame.

They expressed concerns that if requirements are imposed solely on bar owners without licences for bouncers, someone could get fired from one bar and go find a job at another bar with no government mechanism to stop this individual from working in the private security profession by revoking their licence. What is recommended in SISA, again, makes it more central. It makes it more transparent. I know that - I won't go down that thought.

It's a shame that - again, this is something that, maybe, if it was in place, would have protected the loss of the Sawyer family.

What has been brought forward - I guess it's nice that's something has been brought forward, but it is simply not enough. It is not even the bare minimum that those families have been asking for. As legislators, it's shameful. We're here to serve the people. The people said what they needed, and time and time again, they get ignored.

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Theresa Giffin's brother, Stephen, died after being beaten by bouncers outside of a downtown bar in 1999. Imagine losing a loved one like that. Just imagine. It's so avoidable. Someone that's supposed to be there to protect them is the person who killed them.

Her family lobbied successive governments until, again, the passage of SISA in 2010. The bill would have required all professionals working in private security, including bar bouncers, in the province to have criminal background checks, training, and be licensed. Professions that do far less and have far less responsibility are required to be trained and licensed. How are folks who are supposed to be protecting us not required to do that?

I've said this before and I'll say it again, and I don't think I'm going to stop saying it until we see some real change. It is a shame, it is an absolute shame that these families had to come twice in front of a bunch of suits, and say what they needed to keep their loved ones protected, and twice they're being ignored.

THE SPEAKER « » : The honourable member for Dartmouth North.

SUSAN LEBLANC « » : I just will say a few words on this bill, which I consider to be a bad bill because of the nature of the bill, being an omnibus bill with clauses in it, very disparate clauses. As my colleagues have already said, everything from making sure that we don't wrongfully cremate somebody, to making sure that we criminalize people who are protecting the land. It doesn't make any sense. As my colleague, the Leader of the NDP has said, we can't predict the future, but the government may rue the day that they passed this bill in this way.

That being said, and I've already said it, there are a number of important parts of this. Advocates have been clear at the Public Bills Committee and since then, that there are parts of this bill that are important to them, and they are glad they are here, and they are glad they are going to move forward. They are glad these elements of the bill are going to move forward, and you can't argue with that, but we also heard from those same advocates, that in many cases things don't go far enough.

So we know that. Some things are good, some things don't go far enough, and some things are egregious. Of course, the most egregious of all is the section on the Crown Lands Act. As I mentioned before, we have land protectors here tonight to listen to this debate, and my colleague will speak a little bit more about that later. Where I'm going to focus my comments are on the clauses in the bill that pertain to the Residential Tenancies Act.

The first one is the one around changing the provisions or the definitions, or the new category of boarders. In this province, homelessness has doubled over the last year. Rents, average rents have risen by $4,400 a year. We don't even know, but we know it's a lot of people who are living in core housing need. We know people are living with food insecurity, in energy poverty. It's all part of a large cost-of-living crisis, but there are a number of things we could do to address it.

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We continually hear from the Minister of Growth and Development about housing starts, and all of the money being invested in affordable housing. And we continually hear from the Minister of Service Nova Scotia about the Residential Tenancies Act and how it's working for Nova Scotians. What we do not hear is an acknowledgement that there are parts of that Residential Tenancies Act that are causing homelessness. As many affordable houses that we build, as many housing starts that we brag about, we're just pumping out homeless people. Honestly, that is what is happening.

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Instead of addressing some of those things, we're building in a provision of the Residential Tenancies Act that takes away the rights and protections of people who are boarders. People who rent rooms instead of entire apartments are most likely those who can't afford to rent a bigger space, anything more than a room. They're potentially some of the lowest-income and most vulnerable people living at the fringes of the housing market.

During the bill briefing, our staff asked the staff from the department about whether there was any consideration to how the changes in this provision might affect people on income assistance. Currently, if you're homeless, you have the shelter amount of income assistance taken away from you, which is, let's face it, egregious in itself. What happens to boarders if they stop being legal tenants? What happens? Do they get that shelter amount taken away from them? They don't even exist legally, people who are renting rooms in homes that share a kitchen and a bathroom.

It's a real problem. One of my biggest concerns about this is that staff didn't have an answer for our staff. They hadn't contemplated this. I'm not trying to be sarcastic. I know the staff in the departments work very hard, but we brought this up in Committee of the Whole House on Bills. We brought it up. "Oh, well, we made a mistake." Earlier we saw the Minister of Energy. They made a mistake in the bill, so they brought an amendment forward. We could have done that last night. The minister herself could have brought an amendment forward. We stood up last night, and we talked about the ways that this bill could be improved, and we were ignored.

I'll move on to the other provision that has to do with Residential Tenancies. That is one which I think is a great change, and I'm really glad to see it in this bill. In fact, I tabled a bill about it in the last sitting - and I've said this before but I'll say it again for the record - this was an actual case in my office in Dartmouth North where somebody was fleeing domestic violence and was having trouble getting their abuser off the lease of their apartment. We worked with them, we worked with the department, we worked with the minister, and this change has come forward. We're very grateful.

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Gender-based violence is an epidemic in Nova Scotia. We know that. We passed a bill about that, that proclaimed it as an epidemic, because the Mass Casualty Commission said we should. Advocates all over the province asked us to do that, knowing full well that proclaiming something or naming something an epidemic does not solve the problem, but at least it gets the subject on the screen.

When I asked the Minister responsible for the Advisory Council on the Status of Women Act about gender-based violence being an epidemic, when I asked about money and funding for transition houses or programs for men or whatever, the minister answered that it's not all about money. She is right about that. She talks about how we need an all-government approach. I can't table the Hansard at this moment, but I know we all know that she has said that. She is right; it is an all-government approach. This provision in this omnibus bill is partly an answer to that. It will help people who are experiencing gender-based violence, but it doesn't go far enough.

The changes that we have suggested around this to strengthen this little, itty-bitty part are not extraordinary changes. Think about it for a second. There is a person who is experiencing gender-based violence in a domestic situation. The abuser leaves the apartment. Their name is taken off the lease. That's great because that means that the person who is on the lease, the survivor, makes the decisions around that apartment now. That's great; that's important. But that abuser still has a key to the apartment.

Right now, they don't have to change the locks. That abuser still might have a key fob, maybe not to the apartment but to the building, because they don't have to reprogram the key fobs. That abuser still might have get their cellphone so when someone goes up and puts in the code at the buzzer bank, it might still ding to their cellphone so they can let someone else into the building, and there's no provision that means that security staff have to be informed about what has gone on.

Last night I introduced amendments that would make those changes: change the locks, change the key fob, change the buzzer system so that the abuser's cellphone is not being buzzed. Why are we not making this bill or this part of the bill as strong as possible? These are lifesaving changes that we suggested. This government, for some reason, is not doing it, and they are not telling us why.

This would be a great example of an across-government approach to ending the epidemic of gender-based violence. The Minister responsible for the Advisory Council on the Status of Women Act says that we need an all-government approach. We have an idea here; we have not a controversial change that has not been accepted by this government.

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Speaker, I am disappointed. I will continue to advocate for these changes. I will continue to stand up for the people in my constituency and all over Nova Scotia who are survivors of gender-based violence, who need real protections. I won't stop talking about it.

I will stop, I promise, in one second. But I'll continue to raise concerns about this after this sitting is over, and I will continue to ask the minister to make the changes. Thank you.

THE SPEAKER « » : The honourable member for Cumberland North.

ELIZABETH SMITH-MCCROSSIN « » : I'd like to stand and bring comments at third reading on Bill No. 127, which is a government omnibus bill. I have a hard time even using the name, the Protecting Nova Scotians Act. I know I did talk about this last night in Committee of the Whole House, but I do want to bring it up again. I don't believe this is the right name for this bill.

Let's take a quick look, and I know some of my colleagues already went through it. There's no sense to this omnibus bill. We have an amendment to the Cemetery and Funeral Services Act. We have an amendment to the Crown Lands Act. What do they have in common with each other? We have an amendment to the Embalmers and Funeral Directors Act. We have an amendment to the Liquor Control Act. We have an amendment to the Personal Health Information Act, which I might add other than another omnibus bill, there was an amendment to the Health Protection Act. These are the only two minor mentions of anything to do with health care in this entire fall sitting, which is appalling considering the state of health care in this province.

Every day I am hearing from people upset about the lack of access to health care. All the polling and all the surveying will tell you that health care and housing and affordability are pretty much equal in the minds of the people of Nova Scotia. Health care should have been talked about in this fall sitting of the Legislature. Most people hearing the name Protecting Nova Scotians Act would assume it had something to do with health care. Anyway, I'll go on.

Also in this bill, we have an amendment to the Residential Tenancies Act. We have an amendment to the Social Insurance Number Protection Act and just to throw in something completely different, we have an amendment to the Wildlife Act. Who came up with this bill? Who makes a decision to put all of these amendments of all these different types of bills under the Protecting Nova Scotians Act? That's really creative.

I feel a responsibility, Speaker, to share the frustration on behalf of the people who elected me to be in this House. This is the People's House. This is where each one of us - not just members of the Opposition, but all 55 of us - should be here bringing the voices of the people we represent. That's our job. When we don't, this is what gives politicians a bad name. This is why people back home say, "The only time I hear from you is when you want my vote. The only time I hear from the elected people is during an election."

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They should be hearing from us before every sitting that we're here in this Legislature for us to say to them, "What do you want us to talk about on your behalf?" That's our job. Today is the anniversary of responsible government, so it's even more important that we should be talking about what responsible government actually means. We have a responsibility to the people who elected us. I feel very passionate about that, Speaker. People deserve to have a responsible government here in Nova Scotia and across all of Canada. Nova Scotia had the first responsible government.

I would love to be proud of what we do here in this Chamber. Sadly, I am not. I know I've said it before in this Chamber, and I'm going to say it again. I grew up on a farm. I learned how to work my tail off, and I'm embarrassed to be in this job and to have to go home and tell people that we were here for nine days.

Speaker, do you want to see the workload that I have, that I have not even gotten half of it brought here to this Chamber? I have numerous questions for Question Period on various topics that I'm going to have to go back home and tell people, "I'm really sorry, but we had a sitting that lasted eight days." One of those days, we were here less than two hours, so it shouldn't even really count. It's embarrassing.

A couple of weeks ago, I had an interview with a reporter because I had put out on social media how the Parliament, the federal government, were getting ready to go in session. They're going to be sitting for I believe it was 73 days between now and Christmas - 73 days, and we're eight. I just want to make that point.

Then we're debating omnibus bills that, as I mentioned, vary from amendments to the Wildlife Act, the Liquor Act, the Cemetery and Funerals Act, and then a couple of very controversial things. I want to speak to those.

The first one is what my colleague who's also a health care professional mentioned, and that is the amendment to the Personal Health Information Act. This is a piece of legislation that we have debated here in the House on numerous occasions, and I do want to thank the department and all those involved who have been meeting with the mothers over the last year. It has been very encouraging to them to feel like they have been heard and listened to.

However, I want to take us back to when those mothers came here to this House and we had a press conference. The reason that we had a press conference together here in this House is because they weren't being listened to back then. Some of them contacted me and asked, "Will you help us? No one is responding to our emails and our phone calls, and they won't listen to us."

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We organized a press conference downstairs, and within 24 hours, around 14 mothers who all had either lost a child to suicide or they had a child with severe mental illness and either had an attempt or had gone through very severe suicidal ideation. Less than 24 hours after that press conference, the government side held another press conference at the exact same time upstairs here in the Red Chamber, so that is where all the media would go and that is where all the attention would go. It's something to do with green energy.

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I was so embarrassed for these mothers who had the courage to come to the Legislature - the People's House. We are comfortable here. We are used to being here, but a lot of people are nervous when they come here, especially if it is the first time. I did everything I could to help make them feel comfortable and confident when they were coming here to share their deepest pain and sorrow and then had to break the news to them that the reason there was no media or very limited media was because the government and, often cases, their own MLA, had to organize something to compete so that they would not get any airtime.

This is similar to what happened today when we had mothers coming - women coming here to share their stories about their lack of access to women's health care. We saw how things were manipulated to try to make sure that they did not have any airtime or had no voice. There was not even any room in the gallery for them at first; they were told they could not come up. It is disappointing because this is the People's House, and we should be respecting all peoples' voices from across all of Nova Scotia but especially fellow mothers who have endured what I would consider probably the worst thing any person could ever endure.

They did not know that this was coming forward. They wondered. I do not know why so - I do not understand why the department would have had all those conversations with them over the last few months and then did not have the respect to even let them know that this was coming forward for sure. They did not know what day it would be brought forward. They certainly did not know it was going to be squished into an omnibus bill, and only one word was changed, not all of their recommendations.

I cannot support this bill because it is not going far enough to make the changes that are needed to the Personal Health Information Act and out of respect for those moms and every other parent who has lost a loved one and for every other person who has lost someone to suicide or has gone through the pain and the suffering of someone who has had an attempt. There is probably a pretty good chance almost all of us in this Chamber have either lost someone to suicide or have someone close to us who has gone through some pretty dark days and contemplated it.

We all can probably understand, to a degree, some of the pain that comes along with this. This is an important piece of legislation that matters. I want to share an example on this same topic of mental health - mental illness - of something that worked. I want to share it because I want the government side to know there was - in this example of when our government - responsible government works.

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Back quite a few years ago, I had someone who worked in health care contact me. They heard me talk a lot about trying to make improvements to mental health. They said, "Elizabeth, if you want to really make a difference in Cumberland County, you need an amendment to the Involuntary Psychiatric Treatment Act." I said, "Oh, tell me why." They said, "Because your hospital is the only regional hospital that is not part of the legislation, so when psychiatrists refuse to go to your hospital and see someone who is contemplating suicide or has severe mental acute illness, they legally cannot go because they are not listed as a facility in the legislation, so you should get that changed."

It took about two years, but we got that changed - might even have been three years - we got that changed. Now, guess what? We have psychiatrists who can go to our hospital and see someone who is in acute mental distress. That is so huge to a family member or to a patient who is in that situation.

When we make the right changes, when we listen to our constituents, and when we listen to our health care professionals, we do save lives right here in this Chamber. Our decisions matter. I believe fundamentally that what the mothers are asking for - the amendments that they are asking for - and what we proposed last night in the Committee of the Whole House, by myself as an independent member, as well as my colleagues in Opposition, that both the Official Opposition as well as the Liberal Party, we all asked for the same thing on behalf of the moms and were all denied. Fundamentally, I believe that was wrong and this should not be part of this omnibus bill at all.

The other highly controversial part of this bill that I want to speak to, is the amendments to the Crown Lands Act. I spoke at length last night about this in Committee of the Whole House on Bills, and I'm not going to take the same amount of time tonight but I want to touch on it. Because of my personal experience, I do feel very passionate about the importance of this bill.

I also want to say, the reality is the governing party are Conservatives, or Progressive Conservatives. I don't feel this is in the spirit of what a Conservative MLA, or Progressive Conservative MLA would do. Typically, I would say, being a former - or being an ex-communicated member, maybe is a better word - I'm still a Conservative at heart. I am. It's who I am, and it doesn't feel right to take away someone's rights. I believe that Conservatives, at the core of the fundamentals of being a Conservative member, respect independence, respect other people's rights and freedoms.

Today we saw the government put forth a bill and it was supported by all members of this House. Respecting our military, respecting our veterans. Well, what do they actually stand for? They stand for principles. Principles of freedom, principles of liberty. How can the same people put forth that bill this morning and then put forth this amendment to the Crown Lands Act? It is not in line with each other, and it is not Conservative, Progressive or not. It is not a Conservative foundational thing to do. It violates liberties. It violates freedom of all people. I do not support this amendment to the Crown Lands Act, and therefore I cannot support this Bill No. 127.

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THE SPEAKER « » : The honourable member for Timberlea-Prospect.

HON. IAIN RANKIN « » : I think it's important to register why I'm voting against the omnibus bill. My colleague in the Liberal Party spoke to it, so I won't be long. I just want to reiterate that we do support a number of clauses, even though they don't go far enough as we tried, through amendments. Through the PHIA changes for freedom of information and sharing more information with families. With respect to health care, with SISA, with respect to the further need to regulate bouncers. With the other clauses that are good, in terms of the social insurance number protections and domestic abuse changes.

So, all those things are good, and I would vote for them if they were in standalone bills, even though some of them didn't go far enough. I want to be clear, we support those, but we can't support a bill that has a poison pill of the Crown Lands Act amendment. It's just too broad what the government can do with sweeping powers, and the definitions around obstructing a roadway, around impeding access. This gives an opportunity for folks to be arrested and fined apparently $50,000 for potentially just holding up signs in a peaceful protest. As far as I'm concerned, that's unprecedented.

The last time the Crown Lands Act was amended, I was Premier, in 2021. So, sometimes you go around and you hear how, in provincial politics more so than federally, that parties are more or less the same. I think this is an opportunity to draw a distinction, in terms of the difference between - and I respect my colleague's comments who spoke before me, but speaking to this particular PC government and the way they view the Crown lands, and the way that our previous Liberal government that I led viewed Crown lands.

When we amended that, we broadened out the purpose of what the Crown Lands Act was for. It wasn't simply meant for harvesting of resources, but it had a purpose of emphasizing biodiversity and climate change, and it had broader values beyond just forestry, and it required land use planning.

We felt that was strong, and actually, there was a friendly amendment from Lisa Roberts at the time that we accepted to embed climate change into the Act. It's hard to believe that before 2021, climate change wasn't part of credit where credit was due. That's collaboration. That's how it should work in the Legislature. It wasn't an omnibus bill either.

I won't be long, but I wanted to show that juxtaposition in terms of how parties are different, how the PC Party often tries to label itself as separate from a big-C Conservative Party that we see federally, that likes to sow division. Talking about sowing division, this is pretty well highlighting how you can sow division more than anything else when you don't allow people to protest peacefully, when they don't believe that government policy is actually upholding the public interest, protecting the environment, protecting Indigenous rights. We know that laws like this disproportionately impact rural populations, but certainly Indigenous populations and marginalized populations that often have no other avenue to take action against government.

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It's been successful in the past. That's how most things that are significant social change happen: through protest. I think it's important to, when we have the opportunity - because we do agree, all three parties, in many things. There's stuff literally in this bill that's passing in the House that we can all agree on. Some of it we don't feel is going far enough, but we want to see it happen. Let's be clear: There are good things happening, but what they're doing with the Crown Lands Act is wrong. I think it's important that we state the reasons why we are against this bill. I feel very confident to vote against it.

THE SPEAKER « » : The honourable member for Halifax Citadel-Sable Island.

LISA LACHANCE « » : I think, just to highlight a clear theme from tonight, is that we all can see what you're doing. This is clearly an attempt to have a little trick with us. It's pretty lazy legislating. We haven't had a chance to discuss these issues. It's lazy legislating, and it will line you up well for lazy arguments. We know what you're doing. You can try to throw things at us about this, but we know where we stand with stakeholders. Folks know where we stand on interpersonal violence. People know where we stand on reducing suicide in this province. People know where we stand.

I am going to mostly talk about the Crown Lands Act provisions, because I can tell you, it is not where we stand. This is part of a trend designed - this is just furthering the divisive approach of this government, pitting Nova Scotians against one another, and really contributing to polarization in this province. Between the last session and this session, I've been out at a lot of the community meetings on environmental issues, on uranium mining. People feel abandoned; they feel shocked; they feel betrayed. The experience of hundreds of people showing up with very little notice to meetings from across this province - this is what this government is creating.

It will not serve all of us well. This is not what I became a legislator for. I'm pretty sure it's not why lots of you did, but this is what's being created. Now we have unreasonable schedules and timelines that are obviously to limit citizen engagement, to stifle the voices of Nova Scotians. This government does not want to hear from Nova Scotians. If you wanted to hear from Nova Scotians, we'd have a true legislative process. You would take your time. This government would take its time. We would have more than 24 hours from a bill being on second reading going into Public Bills. We would give people time to step forward and share their views.

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I know, it's all those pesky special interests, right? Voices are speaking up. If you're not hearing them, you're really missing out. Before I talk about the Crown Lands Act, I do want to read - because people couldn't get physically to Public Bills, there are lots of letters and lots of input that have been tabled and that I implore you to review. On this approach, this letter reads:

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The very concept of omnibus legislation is offensive to the principles of democratic government that for many decades have been at the heart of good government in Nova Scotia. We as a community have believed in the full, fair, and detailed consideration of proposed regulations governing discrete aspects of public policy. This is not possible when many issues have to be addressed through debate on a single bill.

If the government faced an unusual array of problems requiring prompt and sweeping changes to regulations that desperately need revision, maybe an omnibus bill would be justified. But this is not the case. This citizen notes our Legislature is scarcely overworked.

I would agree with them.

One can only assume, as many have, that this government's intent is to bury debate on contentious issues inherent in each part of the legislation, and in doing so they have taken carte blanche for changes they know would be successfully opposed were each constituent bill be subjected to full, fair, and detailed consideration.

I would ask, do we feel like we have had full, fair, and detailed consideration of the laws that we have now considered as legislators? No. Absolutely not. None of us can claim that. Ministers who have sponsoring parts perhaps could provide some more background, but in most cases, they've chosen not to rise.

This is particularly egregious under the changes proposed for the Crown Lands Act. It doesn't fit in a bill entitled Protecting Nova Scotians Act. As my colleague outlined, it's a marked change from what this Act was about. I mean, I think it reflects that there is a great deal of complexity in the forestry industry and in natural resource development in our province right now. But part of this is coming from a failure to fully implement ecological forestry and a failure to implement the Lahey report, secrecy about information being collected about what's happening in Nova Scotia - in Mi'kma'ki - information about the moose population that isn't being shared.

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We are apparently no longer publishing the glyphosate spraying schedule for folks, so people don't know when that's happening. If you refer back - and I'll find it and table it - that's clearly being done to resist any type of dissent. It's being done because of the fear that there will be protests - stifling debate. Lifting the uranium bans unilaterally, abandoning the Coastal Protection Act - this government - no minister has read or released the environmental racism report. We're not even sharing our plan for getting to our protected areas commitments in six months.

All of that on environment and climate change. All of that on the place that we all live in: Mi'kma'ki. And on top of that, a persistent pattern of lip service about our journey as treaty people. Leaders of our Mi'kmaw communities have had to state repeatedly in public, because they don't have other forums, that this government's actions are not good enough, that they are not standing as treaty people, and that they are not respecting the nation-to-nation relationship. This is shameful. From the first public letter last January, that should have been the hint to this government to do things differently. Now, I've lost track of how many public letters there have been.

How do we think Nova Scotians are supposed to feel? Is this building trust in this government, a government who's doing business really fast, burying it all together quickly at night, barely holding any sort of ability for the public to engage in the legislative process? That is not building trust.

This particular amendment is directly aimed at land protectors, who have been asserting their rights to government - and publicly - about natural resource development. At Public Bills, Michelle Paul spoke eloquently about how hurtful it was to see the changes to Crown land laws to block protest being pushed through during this week, the week of Truth and Reconciliation Day, the week of Treaty Day, and the beginning of Mi'kmaq History Month.

She said, and I quote, "This move attempts to remove our land protectors from their rightful place to protect these lands and waters that our ancestors have lived upon."

I'm going to repeat that. As some of our colleagues have noted, sometimes it bears repeating so that we all take a moment to breathe in these words. "This move attempts to remove our land protectors from their rightful place to protect these lands and waters that our ancestors have lived upon."

"This government has shown a disregard and a lack of respect to push this through during this time." In her written submission, she added that this was a serious legal and moral omission.

In case folks missed it, we outlined the legal duty to consult yesterday in debate. We're not making this up. It's in the Constitution. Not only did it go in the Constitution, but then First Nations from across this country have had to go to court to fight to reaffirm it and reaffirm it. The law is there. The law has been clearly spoken, and if this law is challenged, we'll get a chance to have that ruling come out of Nova Scotia, as well.

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Not only that, but Canada is also a signatory to UNDRIP - the United Nations Declaration on the Rights of Indigenous Peoples - and that has shaped the idea of fair and informed consent.

Maybe this all sounds like a lot of words. Maybe this all sounds like we're being blockers or throwing up barriers to development, but the importance of getting this right is at the heart of our province. This is the basis of our province. We live in an unceded territory. There is not a treaty that addresses the surrender of land in Nova Scotia. We are unceded. Europeans invaded Mi'kma'ki and tried to take over the land. That is the truth of the history. We didn't have an immigration program. We didn't apply to come. We invaded. The Europeans invaded.

The treaty-making process was developed equally between settlers and the Mi'kmaq because it was clear that there needed to be some discussion about how we were all going to live together. The Mi'kmaq, to their credit, trusted that we could call these treaties the Peace and Friendship Treaties and that our respective roles would be understood, would be acted upon, would persist forever, and would persist in eternity, just like the land.

We have a shameful history. Our province was built on racist lies and laws that attempted to extinguish Mi'kmaw people and rights.

We all sit here and say we know better now. We all sit here and say we have learned the truth, that we're committed to reconciliation, and that we are all treaty people, but I don't think that all of us can stand behind that.

Yesterday, I shared the most recent notice from the Assembly of Mi'kmaw Chiefs that very clearly said, "This is not in good faith. This is setting us back in terms of our nation-to-nation relationship." Today, we have the honour of being joined by land protectors in the House. They have been previously introduced. I'm honoured that I'm speaking in front of them.

Grandmother Darlene Gilbert has been outside this House - the People's House - drumming and sharing calls to action. I think it was Michelle who talked about acts of resistance and acts of love. We should be so grateful that that has been brought to the House sitting.

I'm honoured to share the words of Grandmother Patricia Stephens from Sipekne'katik, who has joined us today. I'll read what she has provided:

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I write from Unama'ki [Hunters Mountain, Cape Breton], standing with Mi'kmaq protectors who defend the land, the moose, and the promise of treaty. We are not asking for charity. We are demanding the law be honoured and our rights respected.

The Mi'kmaq are rights holders under historic Peace and Friendship Treaties that pre-date Confederation and form the foundation of our relationship with the Crown. These guarantees are affirmed today by Section 35 of the Constitution Act, 1982, which recognizes and affirms existing Aboriginal and Treaty rights.

Hunters Mountain is not a line on a map to be cleared for short-term profit. It is ancestral land, a moose habitat, and a place of ceremony and survival. Mi'kmaq people and allies have taken a stand because repeated consultations have failed to protect what is left. These protests - and the public letters of support they have generated - are a clear call for the government to change course.

Therefore, we demand the following now:

1.       Immediate suspension of all forestry operations at Hunter's Mountain until meaningful, government-to-rights-holder consultation and consent have occurred. Recent industry pauses show this is both possible and necessary.

2.       Legal recognition and protection of Mi'kmaw decision-making on Unama'ki in all land use decisions, consistent with Section 35 and the spirit of the Peace and Friendship Treaties.

3.       A binding co-management framework with Mi'kmaw leadership that prioritizes cultural survival, moose recovery, and long-term ecological stewardship over short-term resource extraction.

4.       A public inquiry into the duty to consult and accommodate, as applied to Crown forestry licenses in Unama'ki, to be completed with Indigenous leadership and public transparency.

This is not only legal; it is moral. You can either stand on the right side of history by protecting our laws, our animals, and our future - or be remembered for presiding over the destruction of what we cannot replace.

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We seek a meeting with the minister and senior officials within two weeks to begin a negotiated, respectful path forward. Please respond to this letter to confirm a date and time.

That was written by Patricia Stephens, who joins us here today, and I can table that.

As has been said, this bill in particular - its approach to legislating and this particular provision within an omnibus bill related to the Crown Lands Act - is all part of a pattern. It's all part of what this government has laid out - divisiveness, calling people special interests, harming - deeply harming - the nation-to-nation relationship that this government should be honoured to uphold. This government should see this as central to the way in which this government cares for this province, for Mi'kma'ki. We believe that the approach of this government in this regard is unacceptable.

We recommit ourselves to truth and reconciliation. We recommit ourselves to our responsibilities as treaty people. All my relations; Msit No'Kmaq. (Applause)

THE SPEAKER « » : The honourable Minister of Justice.

HON. BECKY DRUHAN « » : Speaker, I appreciate the opportunity to get up and just briefly answer some of the questions that most recently the member for Fairview-Clayton Park has raised, but others have raised as well, in relation to the provisions of Bill No. 127 relating to the Liquor Control Act, which address bouncers.

The tragic events that gave rise to the discussions that we've had in this House around this go back to 1999. I just want to say at the outset, my heart goes out to these families. They were offered solutions in the form of a bill that was tabled 15 years ago, and that never came to fruition.

I don't know why that wasn't implemented, and I don't know why other solutions, other paths to a solution to these gaps were not offered along the course of this. What I do know is we hear their concerns. We respect the work that they've done to advocate out of the tragedies that they've experienced, and we acknowledge and agree that there are gaps that need to be addressed. We agree on what those gaps are, and they are threefold.

The first is that there is a need for training - adequate and appropriate training of bouncers or bar security staff. Second, there is a need for background or criminal record checks to be in place. Third - and I think this is the key one and this is really what I wanted to explain and talk about - is that there is a need for those things to be enforceable, and for Nova Scotians to be able to rely on the fact that there is training in place and there are background checks and they can be safe in bars and establishments.

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I want to say that the amendments to the Liquor Control Act that are being put forward absolutely address all three of those gaps.

First, these amendments enable government to prescribe training requirements that every bouncer and bar security staff must receive. Second, they enable government to prescribe background check requirements, not only at hiring, but also on an ongoing disclosure basis that every bouncer and every establishment must comply with.

Third, and this is the key piece, the teeth of licensing; these amendments enable the full force of the liquor control licensing regime to support the compliance with those first two pieces. What does that mean? Establishments will be held responsible to ensure that bouncers have the required training. Establishments will be held responsible to ensure that background checks are completed and that they have measures in place for any ongoing reporting or disclosure requirements. If that doesn't happen, the establishments' licences are at stake.

To answer the question and the concern that was raised: Can someone get fired from one bar and immediately go and be hired by another bar, without repercussions? No, absolutely not. Every establishment will have to do their due diligence to ensure compliance with these requirements. The government has the full suite of liquor control licensing tools to be deployed to ensure enforcement of these important requirements.

We can't undo what has been done. We cannot reverse the tragedies that these two families have undergone. We cannot take away their pain, as much as we would love to do all those things. We can't alleviate their frustrations at years of inaction.

What we can do and are doing is closing the gaps that led to these tragedies and to prevent any of these tragedies from occurring in the future. Speaker, that's what the amendments to Bill No. 127 do.

THE SPEAKER « » : If I am to recognize the honourable Minister of Service Nova Scotia it will be to close debate on third reading.

The honourable Minister of Service Nova Scotia.

HON. JILL BALSER « » : Speaker, I move to close debate on third reading of Bill No. 127.

THE SPEAKER « » : The motion is for third reading of Bill No. 127.

All those in favour? Contrary minded? Thank you.

The motion is carried.

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Ordered that the bill do pass. Ordered that the title be as read by the Clerk. Ordered that the bill be engrossed.

The honourable Government House Leader.

HON. BRENDAN MAGUIRE « » : That concludes government business for today. I move that the House do now rise to meet again on October 3^rd between the hours of 9:00 a.m. and 11:59 p.m. (Interruption)

THE SPEAKER « » : Order. The motion is that the House rise to meet again on October 3^rd, from the hours of 9:00 a.m. to 11:59 p.m.

All those in favour? Contrary minded. Thank you.

The motion is carried.

We stand adjourned.

[The House rose at 7:19 p.m.]

NOTICES OF MOTION UNDER RULE 32(3)

RESOLUTION NO. 234

By: Hon. Kim Masland (Queens)

I hereby give notice that on a future day I shall move the adoption of the following resolution:

Whereas marriages are an occasion for family and friends to gather together to celebrate the life of two individuals united as one; and

Whereas it was once said that a marriage is the celebration of love, trust and partnership; and

Whereas on September 27, 2025, a very special occasion took place when Mark Feener and Krista Crouse of Queens, celebrated their wedding;

Therefore be it resolved that all members of this House of Assembly congratulate Mark and Krista on their marriage and wish them a lifetime of health and happiness.

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RESOLUTION NO. 235

By: Hon. Colton LeBlanc (Argyle)

I hereby give notice that on a future day I shall move the adoption of the following resolution:

Whereas the birth of a child is an exciting and momentous event and marks the beginning of a wonderful journey; and

Whereas few events in life are as powerful and positive as the birth of a child; and

Whereas on January 28, 2025, Alyssa LeBlanc-Mood and Cody Mood welcomed their son into the world;

Therefore be it resolved that all members of this House of Assembly congratulate Alyssa LeBlanc-Mood and Cody Mood on this miraculous event in their lives and wish them a lifetime of happiness as parents.

RESOLUTION NO. 236

By: Hon. Colton LeBlanc (Argyle)

I hereby give notice that on a future day I shall move the adoption of the following resolution:

Whereas the birth of a child is an exciting and momentous event and marks the beginning of a wonderful journey; and

Whereas few events in life are as powerful and positive as the birth of a child; and

Whereas on June 10, 2025, Angela and Brett Sears welcomed their daughter into the world;

Therefore be it resolved that all members of this House of Assembly congratulate Angela and Brett Sears on this miraculous event in their lives and wish them a lifetime of happiness as parents.

RESOLUTION NO. 237

By: Hon. Colton LeBlanc (Argyle)

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I hereby give notice that on a future day I shall move the adoption of the following resolution:

Whereas the birth of a child is an exciting and momentous event and marks the beginning of a wonderful journey; and

Whereas few events in life are as powerful and positive as the birth of a child; and

Whereas on January 31, 2025, Anna Ou and Brandon Ensor welcomed their daughter into the world;

Therefore be it resolved that all members of this House of Assembly congratulate Anna Ou and Brandon Ensor on this miraculous event in their lives and wish them a lifetime of happiness as parents.

RESOLUTION NO. 238

By: Hon. Colton LeBlanc (Argyle)

I hereby give notice that on a future day I shall move the adoption of the following resolution:

Whereas the birth of a child is an exciting and momentous event and marks the beginning of a wonderful journey; and

Whereas few events in life are as powerful and positive as the birth of a child; and

Whereas on March 1, 2025, Bailey Muise and Joshua Ferguson welcomed their daughter into the world;

Therefore be it resolved that all members of this House of Assembly congratulate Bailey Muise and Joshua Ferguson on this miraculous event in their lives and wish them a lifetime of happiness as parents.

RESOLUTION NO. 239

By: Hon. Colton LeBlanc (Argyle)

I hereby give notice that on a future day I shall move the adoption of the following resolution:

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Whereas the birth of a child is an exciting and momentous event and marks the beginning of a wonderful journey; and

Whereas few events in life are as powerful and positive as the birth of a child; and

Whereas on May 20, 2025, Britthany and Matthew Gaudet welcomed their daughter into the world;

Therefore be it resolved that all members of this House of Assembly congratulate Britthany and Matthew Gaudet on this miraculous event in their lives and wish them a lifetime of happiness as parents.

RESOLUTION NO. 240

By: Hon. Colton LeBlanc (Argyle)

I hereby give notice that on a future day I shall move the adoption of the following resolution:

Whereas the birth of a child is an exciting and momentous event and marks the beginning of a wonderful journey; and

Whereas few events in life are as powerful and positive as the birth of a child; and

Whereas on July 1, 2025, Madison and Arielle Cleveland welcomed their daughter into the world;

Therefore be it resolved that all members of this House of Assembly congratulate Madison and Arielle Cleveland on this miraculous event in their lives and wish them a lifetime of happiness as parents.

RESOLUTION NO. 241

By: Hon. Colton LeBlanc (Argyle)

I hereby give notice that on a future day I shall move the adoption of the following resolution:

Whereas the birth of a child is an exciting and momentous event and marks the beginning of a wonderful journey; and

Whereas few events in life are as powerful and positive as the birth of a child; and

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Whereas on July 21, 2025, Shawna Doucette and Nicolas d'Entremont welcomed their son into the world;

Therefore be it resolved that all members of this House of Assembly congratulate Shawna Doucette and Nicolas d'Entremont on this miraculous event in their lives and wish them a lifetime of happiness as parents.

RESOLUTION NO. 242

By: Hon. Colton LeBlanc (Argyle)

I hereby give notice that on a future day I shall move the adoption of the following resolution:

Whereas the birth of a child is an exciting and momentous event and marks the beginning of a wonderful journey; and

Whereas few events in life are as powerful and positive as the birth of a child; and

Whereas on June 29, 2025, Yvelle Pothier and Vincent Muise welcomed their daughter into the world;

Therefore be it resolved that all members of this House of Assembly congratulate Yvelle Pothier and Vincent Muise on this miraculous event in their lives and wish them a lifetime of happiness as parents.

RESOLUTION NO. 243

By: Melissa Sheehy-Richard (Hants West)

I hereby give notice that on a future day I shall move the adoption of the following resolution:

Whereas the IWK Health Centre has announced the appointment of Stacy Burgess as Vice President of Clinical Support and System Integration; and

Whereas Ms. Burgess brings more than 25 years of dedicated service to the IWK Health Centre, beginning her career as a frontline nurse; and

Whereas her proven leadership in health system operations, government relations, and strategic partnerships will be a tremendous asset to IWK Health;

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Therefore be it resolved that all members of this House of Assembly congratulate Stacy Burgess on her appointment as Vice President of Clinical Support and System Integration at the IWK Health Centre and extend best wishes for continued success in this important role.

RESOLUTION NO. 244

By: Melissa Sheehy-Richard (Hants West)

I hereby give notice that on a future day I shall move the adoption of the following resolution:

Whereas athletes from Hants West proudly represented Nova Scotia at the 2025 Canada Summer Games in St. John's, Newfoundland; and

Whereas their dedication and commitment brought exceptional results, with Chloe Dunbar earning gold, Zachary James earning gold, Eileen Benoit earning silver, and Carter Naugler earning two bronze medals; and

Whereas these accomplishments reflect not only the talent of the athletes but also the support of their families, coaches, and communities;

Therefore be it resolved that all members of this House of Assembly congratulate these medalists and all athletes from Hants West who represented Nova Scotia with pride at the 2025 Canada Summer Games.

FILED PETITIONS

(Tabled Oct. 2, 2025)

Petition to the Minister of Public Works: Oct. 2, 2025
- Re Rebuild South Bishop Road in Coldbrook

By: J. Vanexan

Whereas South Bishop Road in Coldbrook is in very bad repair, having been deteriorating for over 25 years and crumbling along the edges to the extent that vehicles must drive on the dirt shoulder; and

Whereas the road is not wide enough for gravel trucks and other vehicles to pass safely and its bridges are not wide enough to allow trucks and vehicles to pass each other at all; and

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Whereas from Highway 1 to the gravel pit, the lines on the road, when present, are quickly worn away by the passage of gravel trucks; and

Whereas patches to the numerous potholes do not last long due to the amount of heavy truck traffic on the road; and

Whereas South Bishop Road is no longer a dead-end road and is accordingly experiencing higher volumes of traffic;

Therefore we, the undersigned residents of Kings County, call upon the Minister of Public Works to rebuild South Bishop Road in Coldbrook, including the road's two bridges, to be thicker and wider to accommodate the heavy truck traffic the road experiences and to permit safe travel for other vehicles and pedestrians.

Petition to the Governor in Council: Oct. 2, 2025
- Re Creation of Farm Registration Regulations

By: K. Gallagher

Whereas, Nova Scotia is the only Maritime province that does not have more than one recognized general farm organization, farmers in Nova Scotia are left without a choice of voice when registering their farm businesses; and

Whereas, The National Farmers Union is a farmer-led organization established by an Act of Parliament in 1969 that represents farmers and farm workers across Canada and in Nova Scotia, a newly created district of the union, and is an accredited farm organization in three other provinces (Ontario, New Brunswick, and Prince Edward Island); and

Whereas, The Canadian Federation of Agriculture, the organization currently representing farm businesses registered to the Nova Scotia Federation of Agriculture at the national level, and the National Farmers Union have distinct policies and farmers in Nova Scotia deserve the right to choose which organization they support and which organization will represent them;

Therefore, we, the undersigned residents, farmers, and farm workers of Nova Scotia call upon the Governor in Council to create Farm Registration Regulations under subsection 12(1) and subject to subsection 3(2A) of the Nova Scotia Farm Registration Act: prescribing the criteria for a general farm organization and prescribing the percentage for the purpose of subsection 12(1), and to give the National Farmers Union the opportunity to apply for accreditation as a general farm organization.

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