The Nova Scotia Legislature

The House resumed on:
September 21, 2017.

Hansard -- Fri., Oct. 22, 1999

First Session

FRIDAY, OCTOBER 22, 1999

TABLE OF CONTENTS PAGE
INTRODUCTION OF BILLS:
No. 8, Ground Ambulance Services Act, Hon. J. Muir 671
NOTICES OF MOTION:
Res. 255, Mrs. Mary Christina Williams (Bedford): Birthday 100th -
Congrats., Hon. P. Christie 672
Vote - Affirmative 672
Res. 256, Abor. Affs. - Sable Gas: Pipeline Decision - Veto Remove,
Mr. J. Holm 672
Res. 257, Health - Reg. Bds.: Disbanded - Info., Mr. R. MacKinnon 673
Res. 258, Exco - Expenses: Increase - Forgo, Mr. Robert Chisholm 674
Res. 259, Health - Reg. Bds.: Disbanded - Methodology Abandon,
Dr. J. Smith 674
Res. 260, Culture - Vision TV Documentary (Muriel Duckworth
Practising Peace): Pat Kipping Et Al - Congrats., Ms. E. O'Connell 675
Vote - Affirmative 676
Res. 261, Dart. East MLA - Health Plan (Lib. Gov't. [N.S.-1999]):
Incompetence - Recognize, Mr. J. DeWolfe 676
Res. 262, United Way - Fund-Raising Tally Bd. (Prov. House):
Gov't. (N.S.) - Update, Mr. B. Boudreau 677
Vote - Affirmative 677
Res. 263, Culture - Anna Swan Museum (Tatamagouche):
Exhibits New - Congrats., Mr. W. Langille 677
Vote - Affirmative 678
Res. 264, Justice - Frances Fish Women Lawyers Achievement Awards:
Dawn Black & Anne Derrick - Congrats., Ms. Maureen MacDonald 678
Res. 265, Abor. Affs.: Native Issues - Address Properly, Mr. D. Downe 679
Res. 266, Lbr. - Occupational Health & Safety Regs.: Implementation
Delay - Consequences, Mr. R. MacKinnon 680
Res. 267, Educ. - Cole Hbr. DHS: Cole Hbr. Commun. Radio Soc. -
Leadership Recognize, Mr. D. Dexter 680
Vote - Affirmative 681
Res. 268, Commun. Serv. - Foster Family Week: Foster Parents
(Mi'kmaq Children) - Recognize, Mr. K. Deveaux 681
Vote - Affirmative 682
Res. 269, Tourism - Peggy's Cove: Prospect Rd. - Destinations Feature,
Mr. W. Estabrooks 682
Res. 270, Lbr. - Uniacke & Dist. Vol. Fire Dept.: Awards Ceremony -
Congrats., Mr. John MacDonell 683
Vote - Affirmative 683
Res. 271, Educ. - SMU: Students With Disabilities-Liberated Learning
Project - Congrats., Hon. P. Christie 683
Vote - Affirmative 684
HOUSE RESOLVED INTO CWH ON SUPPLY AT 9:23 A.M. 684
HOUSE RECONVENED AT 1:22 P.M. 685
HOUSE RESOLVED INTO CWH ON BILLS AT 1:23 P.M. 685
HOUSE RECONVENED AT 1:25 P.M. 685
CWH REPORTS 685
HOUSE RECESSED AT 1:27 P.M. 686
HOUSE RECONVENED AT 1:40 P.M. 686
ADJOURNMENT, House rose to meet again on Mon., Oct. 25th at 12:00 p.m. 688

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HALIFAX, FRIDAY, OCTOBER 22, 1999

Fifty-eighth General Assembly

First Session

9:00 A.M.

SPEAKER

Hon. Murray Scott

DEPUTY SPEAKERS

Mr. Brooke Taylor, Mr. Wayne Gaudet, Mr. Kevin Deveaux

MR. SPEAKER: Order, please. We will begin the daily routine.

PRESENTING AND READING PETITIONS

PRESENTING REPORTS OF COMMITTEES

TABLING REPORTS, REGULATIONS AND OTHER PAPERS

STATEMENTS BY MINISTERS

GOVERNMENT NOTICES OF MOTION

INTRODUCTION OF BILLS

Bill No. 9 - Entitled an Act to Provide for the Continuation of Ground Ambulance Services in the Province. (Hon. James Muir)

MR. SPEAKER: Ordered that this bill be read a second time on a future day.

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NOTICES OF MOTION

MR. SPEAKER: The honourable Minister of Community Services.

RESOLUTION NO. 255

HON. PETER CHRISTIE: Mr. Speaker, I hereby give notice that on a future day I shall move the adoption of the following resolution:

Whereas on October 22, 1999, Mrs. Mary Christina Williams, a life-long resident of Nova Scotia and a valued resident of the community of Bedford, will be celebrating her 100th birthday; and

Whereas Mrs. Williams was born in Beaver Mountain, Antigonish County, married Mr. Alexander Joseph Williams, and has two children - Mr. Doug Williams, a resident of Bedford; and Mrs. Doris Chelsea, a resident of Saint John, New Brunswick; and

Whereas Mrs. Williams served in a voluntary capacity as a member of the Eastern Star Lodge of New Glasgow for over 50 years;

Therefore be it resolved that the members of this House extend their congratulations and best wishes on this occasion of Mrs. Williams' 100th birthday.

Mr. Speaker, I request waiver of notice.

MR. SPEAKER: There has been a request for waiver.

Is it agreed?

It is agreed.

Would all those in favour of the motion please say Aye. Contrary minded, Nay.

The motion is carried.

The honourable member for Sackville-Cobequid.

RESOLUTION NO. 256

MR. JOHN HOLM: Mr. Speaker, I hereby give notice that on a future day I shall move the adoption of the following resolution:

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Whereas Nova Scotians and people across Canada are learning this morning about Wednesday's Federal Court of Appeal decision ordering a rehearing of approval for the Sable gas pipeline; and

Whereas yesterday the Premier told this House that addressing the issues which may destabilize oil and gas development must, in his words, "take a back seat" to the lobster fishing dispute; and

Whereas the Premier's attitude is worthy of King Canute but unworthy of the communities and industries who need foresight from the government of this province;

Therefore be it resolved that this House urges the Premier to remove his government's veto of negotiation of Aboriginal title and Aboriginal rights, including discussions in the tripartite forum which can promote stability and avoid further confrontation.

MR. SPEAKER: The notice is tabled.

The honourable member for Cape Breton West.

RESOLUTION NO. 257

MR. RUSSELL MACKINNON: Mr. Speaker, I hereby give notice that on a future day I shall move the adoption of the following resolution:

Whereas the Premier states the primary reason for the elimination of the regional health boards is cost reduction and financial accountability; and

Whereas the Minister of Health publicly states the primary reason for the elimination of regional health boards is not about saving money but being more responsive to the needs of Nova Scotians;

Therefore be it resolved that this Tory Government come clean and explain the real reasons for gutting Nova Scotia's regional health boards.

Mr. Speaker, I would ask for waiver of notice.

MR. SPEAKER: There has been a request for waiver.

Is it agreed?

I hear several Noes.

The notice is tabled.

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The honourable Leader of the New Democratic Party.

RESOLUTION NO. 258

MR. ROBERT CHISHOLM: Mr. Speaker, I hereby give notice that on a future day I shall move the adoption of the following resolution:

Whereas this Premier and this government have told Nova Scotians they must share in the bitter medicine of budget and program cuts in order to pay the provincial deficit; and

Whereas this Premier and this government cut a $350,000 disabled access program, pilfered money from charities and cancelled an employment program for regions of high unemployment; and

Whereas while disadvantaged Nova Scotians are being forced to take the strong medicine of cutbacks, this government quietly increased spending on Cabinet expenses by $200,000 over the larger Liberal Cabinet;

Therefore be it resolved that now that their shameful hypocrisy has been found out, the Tories take the $200,000 increase they gave themselves and give it back to the disabled access program where it belongs.

Mr. Speaker, I seek waiver of notice.

MR. SPEAKER: There is a request for waiver.

Is it agreed?

I hear several Noes.

The notice is tabled.

The honourable member for Dartmouth East.

RESOLUTION NO. 259

DR. JAMES SMITH: Mr. Speaker, I hereby give notice that on a future day I shall move the adoption of the following resolution:

Whereas yesterday's statement by the Minister of Health was clearly an exercise in damage control; and

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Whereas the Minister of Health was not aware that the OIC was signed until he heard that the Liberal caucus had possession of this public document; and

Whereas the end result was a group of volunteers being unceremoniously shown the door after performing thousands of hours of unselfish service to their communities;

Therefore be it resolved that the Hamm Government abandon their shoot first, phone later style of government.

Mr. Speaker, I ask for waiver of notice.

MR. SPEAKER: There has been a request for waiver.

Is it agreed?

I hear several Noes.

The notice is tabled.

The honourable member for Halifax Fairview.

RESOLUTION NO. 260

MS. EILEEN O'CONNELL: Mr. Speaker, I hereby give notice that on a future day I shall move the adoption of the following resolution:

Whereas the one hour documentary, Muriel Duckworth Practising Peace, will have its community launch on October 24th at Pier 21 and its television premiere on Vision TV on November 3rd at 10 p.m.; and

Whereas produced and directed by Halifax film-maker Pat Kipping, it takes a personal look at a long-time committed pacifist and social justice activist; and

Whereas film critic, Ron Foley MacDonald, has said "Muriel Duckworth the icon becomes in the film Muriel Duckworth, the woman, wife, mother and friend.";

Therefore be it resolved that this House congratulate Pat Kipping and all those involved in the making of, Muriel Duckworth Practising Peace.

Mr. Speaker, I seek waiver.

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MR. SPEAKER: There has been a request for waiver.

Is it agreed?

It is agreed.

Would all those in favour of the motion please say Aye. Contrary minded, Nay.

The motion is carried.

The honourable member for Pictou East.

RESOLUTION NO. 261

MR. JAMES DEWOLFE: Mr. Speaker, I hereby give notice that on a future day I shall move the adoption of the following resolution:

Whereas the member for Dartmouth East, the former Minister of Health, is quoted in the Cape Breton Post on June 3rd of this year saying "I didn't come in here this morning with a full plan . . . we're creating it as we go."; and

Whereas despite the Liberal cackling from the other side, the Progressive Conservative Government has moved quickly and efficiently to begin implementing our health care plan for Nova Scotians; and

Whereas since August 16th our PC Government has advertised for the position of a nursing advisor who will work constructively with nurses across Nova Scotia to ensure the problems generated during the Liberal reign of confusion will not happen again, while also announcing a comprehensive assessment of Nova Scotia's health care facilities;

Therefore be it resolved that the member for Dartmouth East recognize his Party's own extreme incompetence in devising a plan for health care for all Nova Scotians instead of misleading them as he did on Monday in this Legislature by reading a resolution that contained information which was 100 per cent in error.

Mr. Speaker, I ask for waiver.

MR. SPEAKER: There has been a request for waiver.

Is it agreed?

I hear several Noes.

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The notice is tabled.

The honourable member for Cape Breton The Lakes.

RESOLUTION NO. 262

MR. BRIAN BOUDREAU: Mr. Speaker, I hereby give notice that on a future day I shall move the adoption of the following resolution:

Whereas every year, provincial government employees work hard to develop and implement innovative fund-raising projects in support of the United Way; and

Whereas the fund-raising efforts of the government employees are displayed on a tally board outside of the Legislature; and

Whereas the United Way is but one of the many charitable organizations currently under review by this government;

Therefore be it resolved that this Tory Government at least have the heart to update the tally board out of respect for all the hard-working government employees who put their heart and soul into raising funds for this charitable organization.

Mr. Speaker, I request waiver.

MR. SPEAKER: There has been a request for waiver.

Is it agreed?

It is agreed.

Would all those in favour of the motion please say Aye. Contrary minded, Nay.

The motion is carried.

The honourable member for Colchester North.

RESOLUTION NO. 263

MR. WILLIAM LANGILLE: Mr. Speaker, I hereby give notice that on a future day I shall move the adoption of the following resolution:

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Whereas the Northumberland Arts Council has officially opened the newly expanded exhibits at the Anna Swan Museum which is situated in the Fraser Cultural Centre in Tatamagouche; and

Whereas the Anna Swan Museum has played a significant role in the tourism industry for the past 15 years in Colchester North; and

Whereas the Anna Swan Museum is just one of the many community-based tourism attractions which can be visited along the Sunrise Trail of Nova Scotia;

Therefore be it resolved that members of this Legislature commend the workers involved with the new exhibits at the Anna Swan Museum and undertake to advise as many Nova Scotians as possible of the number of tourism sites to visit along the Sunrise Trail.

Mr. Speaker, I request waiver.

MR. SPEAKER: There has been a request for waiver.

Is it agreed?

It is agreed.

Would all those in favour of the motion please say Aye. Contrary minded, Nay.

The motion is carried.

The honourable member for Halifax Needham.

RESOLUTION NO. 264

MS. MAUREEN MACDONALD: Mr. Speaker, I hereby give notice that on a future day I shall move the adoption of the following resolution:

Whereas the Frances Fish Women Lawyers Achievement Awards Dinner was held last night in conjunction with the national Association of Nova Scotia Women and the Law; and

Whereas these awards are presented to Nova Scotia female lawyers who demonstrate a high level of excellence and leadership in their field, a dedication to service and a demonstrated commitment to the advancement of women's equality in and through the legal profession; and

Whereas this year's recipients are Dawn Black, the first female Dean of Dalhousie Law School, and Anne Derrick, a prominent feminist lawyer;

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Therefore be it resolved this House congratulate Ms. Derrick and Ms. Black on their awards and for their outstanding contributions to women's equality and the legal profession.

Mr. Speaker, I seek waiver.

MR. SPEAKER: There has been a request for waiver.

Is it agreed?

I hear a No.

The notice is tabled.

The honourable member for Lunenburg West.

RESOLUTION NO. 265

MR. DONALD DOWNE: Mr. Speaker, I hereby give notice that on a future day I shall move the adoption of the following resolution:

Whereas the Premier by his own admission was not ready for the ruling on the Marshall case; and

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Whereas the federal Court of Appeal has ruled that Maritimes & Northeast Pipeline Ltd. did not consult properly with the Mi'kmaq community before constructing the pipeline; and

Whereas the government is as ill-prepared for this decision as it was in the Marshall case;

Therefore be it resolved that the Premier and his government properly deal with native issues so that conflicts between natives and non-natives are avoided.

Mr. Speaker, I ask for waiver.

MR. SPEAKER: There has been a request for waiver.

Is it agreed?

I hear a No.

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The notice is tabled.

The honourable member for Kings North on an introduction.

MR. MARK PARENT: Mr. Speaker, sorry to be introducing people again, but when you are a Tory in Nova Scotia these days, you have lots of friends. (Laughter)

I would like to introduce in the gallery, Rev. Paul Stade, senior minister of the First Baptist Church of Kingsville, Ontario; he took his training at Acadia University. Along with him are three Grade 10 students from the Cornwallis District High School in Canning: Ms. Jill Huntley, Ms. Victoria Rand and a girl who is very bright and takes after her father, Ms. Kaitlyn Parent. (Laughter) It is their first time in the Legislature, so let's welcome them. (Applause)

MR. SPEAKER: The honourable member for Cape Breton West.

RESOLUTION NO. 266

MR. RUSSELL MACKINNON: Mr. Speaker, I hereby give notice that on a future day I shall move the adoption of the following resolution:

Whereas the decision by the Minister of Labour to put Nova Scotia's occupational health and safety regulations on hold is against the advice from both industry and labour representatives across Nova Scotia; and

Whereas this politically motivated action is regressive and compromising to the health and well-being of Nova Scotia workers and will result in higher costs to employers;

Therefore be it resolved that the Minister of Labour be mindful that results are what he can expect, but consequences are what he will get.

MR. SPEAKER: The notice is tabled.

The honourable member for Dartmouth-Cole Harbour.

RESOLUTION NO. 267

MR. DARRELL DEXTER: Mr. Speaker, I hereby give notice that on a future day I shall move the adoption of the following resolution:

Whereas Cole Harbour District High School has taken the lead in working with the community and volunteers to establish the Cole Harbour Community Radio Station; and

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Whereas the vision statement for the radio society states that this radio station will build a bridge that links communities and cultures; and

Whereas its mission statement is, "To unite our diverse communities and cultures by operating a community radio station established to provide quality programming aimed at fostering positive communication, acceptance, and community interaction.";

Therefore be it resolved that this House recognize and applaud the outstanding leadership demonstrated by Cole Harbour District High School in the establishment of the Cole Harbour Community Radio Society and its goal to promote communication and understanding between different cultures.

Mr. Speaker, I would ask for waiver and passage without debate.

MR. SPEAKER: There has been a request for waiver.

Is it agreed?

It is agreed.

Would all those in favour of the motion please say Aye. Contrary minded, Nay.

The motion is carried.

The honourable member for Cole Harbour-Eastern Passage.

RESOLUTION NO. 268

MR. KEVIN DEVEAUX: Mr. Speaker, I hereby give notice that on a future day I shall move the adoption of the following resolution:

Whereas Foster Family Week, October 17th to 24th, recognizes and honours the dedication and support Nova Scotia's foster families give to children, their families and their communities; and

Whereas within the Mi'kmaq culture the extended family is traditionally used to provide care and support to children; and

Whereas the Mi'kmaq Family and Children's Services of Nova Scotia values tradition and uses the extended family and other dedicated foster parents to provide care for Mi'kmaq children throughout Nova Scotia;

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Therefore be it resolved that all members of this House recognize the contribution and internal fortitude of foster parents from all areas of Nova Scotia, particularly those foster parents who care for Mi'kmaq children.

Mr. Speaker, I ask for waiver.

MR. SPEAKER: There has been a request for waiver.

Is it agreed?

It is agreed.

Would all those in favour of the motion please say Aye. Contrary minded, Nay.

The motion is carried.

The honourable member for Timberlea-Prospect.

RESOLUTION NO. 269

MR. WILLIAM ESTABROOKS: Mr. Speaker, I hereby give notice that on a future day I shall move the adoption of the following resolution:

Whereas tourism literature continues to promote Peggy's Cove as a popular destination in our province; and

Whereas tourism is an important source of income for areas of this province; and

Whereas the unique coastal communities along the coast - from Terence Bay, Lower Prospect, Sandy Cove, Prospect Village, McGrath's Cove, Bayside, Blind Bay to East and West Dover - also deserve promotion;

Therefore be it resolved that the new Minister of Tourism instruct his department to feature other destinations along the Prospect Road route on the way to Peggy's Cove.

Mr. Speaker, I ask for waiver.

MR. SPEAKER: There has been a request for waiver.

Is it agreed?

I hear several Noes.

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The notice is tabled.

The honourable member for Hants East.

RESOLUTION NO. 270

MR. JOHN MACDONELL: Mr. Speaker, I hereby give notice that on a future day I shall move the adoption of the following resolution:

Whereas firefighters show the ultimate essence of the spirit of volunteerism by risking their lives to save others; and

Whereas firefighters are a model for young people to recognize commitment and dedication to their community; and

Whereas the Uniacke and District Volunteer Fire Department is holding its awards and dedication ceremony on Saturday, October 23rd;

Therefore be it resolved that this House congratulate all recipients and participants at the awards ceremony and wish Chief Doug Carver and his members safety in pursuit of their duties.

Mr. Speaker, I request waiver.

MR. SPEAKER: There has been a request for waiver.

Is it agreed?

It is agreed.

Would all those in favour of the motion please say Aye. Contrary minded, Nay.

The motion is carried.

The honourable Minister of Community Services.

RESOLUTION NO. 271

HON. PETER CHRISTIE: Mr. Speaker, I hereby give notice that on a future day I shall move the adoption of the following resolution:

Whereas Saint Mary's University in Halifax, today, is launching a world first initiative that will make classrooms more accessible to students with disabilities; and

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Whereas the Liberated Learning Project involves an international group of partners and uses the latest speech recognition technology; and

Whereas this project is made possible through a generous grant from the J.W. McConnell Family Foundation;

Therefore be it resolved that members of this House join me in congratulating everybody involved in this project that will benefit students with disabilities in Nova Scotia and throughout the world.

Mr. Speaker, I request waiver of notice.

MR. SPEAKER: There has been a request for waiver.

Is it agreed?

It is agreed.

Would all those in favour of the motion please say Aye. Contrary minded, Nay.

The motion is carried.

ORDERS OF THE DAY

GOVERNMENT BUSINESS

MR. SPEAKER: The honourable Government House Leader.

HON. RONALD RUSSELL: Mr. Speaker, would you please call the order of business, Government Motions.

GOVERNMENT MOTIONS

MR. SPEAKER: The honourable Government House Leader.

HON. RONALD RUSSELL: Mr. Speaker, I move that you do now leave the Chair and that the House resolve itself into a Committee of the Whole House on Supply unto Her Majesty.

MR. SPEAKER: The motion is carried.

[9:23 a.m. The House resolved itself into a CWH on Supply with Deputy Speaker Mr. Kevin Deveaux in the Chair.]

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[1:22 p.m. CWH on Supply rose and the House reconvened. Mr. Speaker, Hon. Murray Scott, resumed the Chair.]

MR. SPEAKER: The Chairman of the Committee of the Whole House on Supply reports:

THE CLERK: That the committee has met and made progress and begs leave to sit again.

MR. SPEAKER: Is it agreed?

It is agreed.

The honourable Deputy Government House Leader.

MR. WILLIAM DOOKS: Mr. Speaker, I would move that you do now leave the Chair and that the House resolve itself into a Committee of the Whole House on Bills.

MR. SPEAKER: Would all those in favour of the motion please say Aye. Contrary minded, Nay.

The motion is carried.

[1:23 p.m. The House resolved itself into a CWH on Bills with Deputy Speaker Mr. Kevin Deveaux in the Chair.]

[1:25 p.m. CWH on Bills rose and the House reconvened. Mr. Speaker, Hon. Murray Scott, resumed the Chair.]

MR. SPEAKER: The Chairman of the Committee of the Whole House on Bills reports:

THE CLERK: That the committee has met and considered the following bill:

Bill No. 2 - Costs and Fees Act and Probate Act.

and the chairman has been instructed to recommend this bill to the favourable consideration of the House, without amendment.

MR. SPEAKER: Ordered that this bill be read for a third time on a future day.

Would all those in favour of the motion please say Aye. Contrary minded, Nay.

The motion is carried. (Interruptions)

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The honourable Deputy Government House Leader.

MR. WILLIAM DOOKS: Mr. Speaker, we would ask consent of the House to deal with Bill No. 2 today.

MR. CHAIRMAN: Is it agreed?

AN HON. MEMBER: No.

MR. SPEAKER: The honourable member for Colchester North on an introduction.

MR. WILLIAM LANGILLE: Mr. Speaker, I would like the House to recognize three high school teachers from the Truro area: Joanne Phillips; Laurie Christie; and my son, Robert Langille. Would you give them a nice applause. (Applause)

MR. SPEAKER: We stand recessed for five minutes.

[1:27 p.m. The House recessed.]

[1:40 p.m. The House reconvened.]

MR. SPEAKER: The honourable member for Sackville-Cobequid.

MR. JOHN HOLM: Just on a brief point of order, if I may, Mr. Speaker. The House is just coming back from a recess and that was a recess that you, yourself, called for. I am just trying to clarify the rules and procedures that we do follow. I don't remember hearing or didn't hear any motion being brought forward from anybody on the floor calling for a recess. My understanding of the rules is if we are to have a recess that somebody has to make a motion that the House recess for a certain period of time. So, I am just trying to seek some clarification in terms of the procedures.

Now, I don't know if somebody, maybe from the floor, said that they wanted it but, certainly, no question was put about whether or not we should be having a recess. I don't know, maybe Hansard will show me wrong but I sat here and I didn't hear any vote on a recess being taken.

MR. SPEAKER: The honourable member for Eastern Shore

MR. WILLIAM DOOKS: Mr. Speaker, I would just like to say that I did call for that recess at that time.

MR. SPEAKER: The honourable Government House Leader.

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HON. RONALD RUSSELL: Mr. Speaker, further to the point of order brought by the member for Sackville-Cobequid. The Speaker can leave the Chair at any time and just declare a recess. He can go and discuss matters with the Clerk; he can discuss matters with his Legislative Counsel. It is a prerogative of the Speaker.

MR. HOLM: I guess my last comment on it. Certainly, the Speaker can leave the Chair at any time but, Mr. Speaker, as you will recall, what was preceding your leaving the Chair was - how should I put it politely - confusion on the government benches, they didn't have a clue what they wanted to do in terms of business and they were unprepared to call any business at that point in time. (Interruptions) That is why the House ended up getting . . .

MR. SPEAKER: Order, please.

MR. HOLM: . . . they had to have some instruction as to what to do. I just want to know . . .

MR. SPEAKER: Order. Order, please.

MR. HOLM: . . . what the normal procedure is going to be if the government doesn't have any business that they want to discuss. Normally, they would move an adjournment or they could conceivably call for an adjournment, but I didn't see that from the government benches.

MR. SPEAKER: On the honourable member's point of order. It is my belief as Speaker that I can take a five minute recess if I so deem necessary without a motion from the floor and that is what I decided and that is what I did. Now, if there is a precedent in this House that is different then I am willing to listen to that. But in regard to your point of order, I feel that it was appropriate at the time.

MR. SPEAKER: The honourable Government House Leader.

HON. RONALD RUSSELL: Mr. Speaker, that completes our business for today. I am going to move adjournment. On Monday, we will be moving into second reading of Bill No. 9. The House will sit at 12:00 noon and it will sit until 2:00 a.m. Tuesday.

Mr. Speaker, if we should complete the second reading of Bill No. 9, before the expiry of that time, which I sincerely hope that we do, the House will adjourn.

MR. SPEAKER: There is a motion to adjourn.

A standing vote has been called for.

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Would all those in favour of the motion please rise. Will the Clerk please take the count. The Clerk has the count. Please be seated.

Would all those against the motion stand please. Will the Clerk please take the count. The Clerk has the count. Please be seated.

THE CLERK: For, 20. Against, 13.

MR. SPEAKER: The motion is carried.

We stand adjourned until Monday.

[The House rose at 1:45 p.m.]