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HALIFAX, MONDAY, JANUARY 23, 1995



Fifty-sixth General Assembly



Second Session



2:00 P.M.



SPEAKER



Hon. Paul MacEwan



DEPUTY SPEAKER



Mr. Gerald O’Malley






MR. SPEAKER: Order, please. We will commence this afternoon’s sitting at this time. The daily
routine is first on the agenda.



PRESENTING AND READING PETITIONS



MR. SPEAKER: The honourable member for Shelburne.



MR. CLIFFORD HUSKILSON: Mr. Speaker, I beg leave to present to the House a petition from 62
landowners of Rockland and East Ragged Island in Shelburne County. I would like to table this and I have
affixed my signature to it. They would like their road paved.



MR. SPEAKER: The petition is tabled.



PRESENTING REPORTS OF COMMITTEES



TABLING REPORTS, REGULATIONS AND OTHER PAPERS



STATEMENTS BY MINISTERS



GOVERNMENT NOTICES OF MOTION



INTRODUCTION OF BILLS



NOTICES OF MOTION

 

 

MR. SPEAKER: The honourable Leader of the Opposition.



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RESOLUTION NO. 1546



MR. TERENCE DONAHOE: Mr. Speaker, I hereby give notice that on a future day I shall move the
adoption of the following resolution:



Whereas last week the Official Opposition revealed that ads for the top paying positions in casinos in
Halifax and Sydney had been advertised on January 1st in Las Vegas and in Atlantic City but not in Nova
Scotia; and



Whereas the Minister of Finance, in attempting to save face, lost little time ensuring the same ads
appeared in provincial newspapers over the weekend; and



Whereas the minister may now wish to explain why ads in Nova Scotia papers, supposedly aimed at
Nova Scotians, would offer, “Relocation assistance to Nova Scotia . . .”, if indeed there was any intention of
those jobs going to Nova Scotians;



Therefore be it resolved that the minister drop the charade of trying to convince Nova Scotians that
casinos will bring them good, secure jobs in Halifax and Sydney.



MR. SPEAKER: The notice is tabled.



The honourable Leader of the New Democratic Party.



RESOLUTION NO. 1547



MR. JOHN HOLM: Mr. Speaker, I hereby give notice that on a future day I shall move the adoption
of the following resolution:



Whereas the Premier told radio listeners this morning that he is going to Switzerland with great
comfort, because now he has office staff whom he can trust; and



Whereas it must be equally comforting for the Cabinet and caucus to know who runs the government
in the Premier’s absence, and to know that it isn’t them; and



Whereas the Premier’s capable office staff have eased any sense of urgency about government
legislation by announcing that the Premier is taking a four day holiday, while this House sits;



Therefore be it resolved that the government should provide Nova Scotians with a list of the
departments for which each member of the Premier’s staff is responsible, so people need not waste time on
such intermediaries as MLAs and Cabinet Ministers.



MR. SPEAKER: The notice is tabled.



The honourable member for Bedford-Fall River.



RESOLUTION NO. 1548



MRS. FRANCENE COSMAN: Mr. Speaker, I hereby give notice that on a future day I shall move the
adoption of the following resolution:



Whereas on Wednesday night, January 18th, the Right Reverend Frederick Hiltz was consecrated
Suffragan Bishop of the Anglican Diocese of Nova Scotia; and



Whereas Bishop Hiltz is recognized throughout the provinces as a caring pastoral leader and able
administrator; and



Whereas Bishop Hiltz will assist the Bishop of Nova Scotia, Right Reverend Arthur Peters, in the care
and administration of the oldest Anglican Diocese in Canada;



Therefore be it resolved that this House of Assembly offer its congratulations to the new Suffragan
Bishop of Nova Scotia, the Right Reverend Fred Hiltz, and to the people of the Diocese of Nova Scotia on the
occasion of the consecration of the new Suffragan Bishop.



Mr. Speaker, I am requesting waiver.



MR. SPEAKER: Is it agreed that notice be waived on that notice of motion?



It is agreed.



Would all those in favour of the motion please say Aye. Contrary minded, Nay.



The motion is carried.



The honourable member for Kings West.



RESOLUTION NO. 1549



MR. GEORGE MOODY: Mr. Speaker, I hereby give notice that on a future day I shall move the
adoption of the following resolution:



Whereas the Finance Minister, over the weekend, was handed his first concrete example for his theory
that casinos will bring much-needed dollars into the Nova Scotian economy; and



Whereas the daily newspapers have benefitted greatly from large advertisements for the management
positions for the proposed casinos in Halifax and Sydney; and



Whereas these advertisements appeared three weeks later than those found in Las Vegas and Atlantic
City;



Therefore be it resolved that the minister stop holding out the empty promise of good, secure jobs for
Nova Scotians in casinos as a tactic to encourage the Opposition to simply roll over and play dead in this
House.



MR. SPEAKER: The notice is tabled.



The honourable member for Pictou East.



RESOLUTION NO. 1550



MR. WAYNE FRASER: Mr. Speaker, I hereby give notice that on a future day I shall move the
adoption of the following resolution:



Whereas Nova Scotia is the best place in the world to do business; and



Whereas in recognition of this fact, the world’s largest tire manufacturer announced that they will
invest $24 million into infrastructure improvements of the three plant locations in Nova Scotia; and



Whereas Michelin will spend $13 million at the main plant in Granton, Pictou County to increase
capacity, that reached the 100 millionth tire mark on Friday, January 13th;



Therefore be it resolved that the members of this House of Assembly extend congratulations to
Michelin Tire for their long-term commitment and confidence in the economy of Nova Scotia by investing
in the Granton plant’s future.



Mr. Speaker, I would ask for waiver of notice.



MR. SPEAKER: There has been a request for waiver of notice which requires unanimous consent.



Is it agreed?



It is agreed.



Would all those in favour of the motion please say Aye. Contrary minded, Nay.



The motion is carried.



The honourable member for Halifax Atlantic.



MR. ROBERT CHISHOLM: I wonder if before I introduce a resolution I could make a couple of
introductions.



MR. SPEAKER: Well, fine.



MR. CHISHOLM: Mr. Speaker, in the west gallery I would like to encourage all members to give a
warm welcome to, and ask these two people to stand up, Christine Fletcher and Ruth Weir who are here to
participate by listening to the debate on the workers’ compensation bill.



MR. SPEAKER: Well, I am very glad that they are here but they are not in the west gallery, they are
in the Speaker’s Gallery. Very glad to have them there.



MR. CHISHOLM: I would encourage all members to give them a warm welcome. (Applause) They
were heading for the west gallery.



MR. SPEAKER: They seem to like my gallery better.



The honourable member for Halifax Atlantic.



RESOLUTION NO. 1551



MR. ROBERT CHISHOLM: Mr. Speaker, I hereby give notice that on a future day I shall move the
adoption of the following resolution:



Whereas the Government House Leader has frequently cited 1992 Ontario rule changes as his
justification for threats to cut off debate in this House; and



Whereas only 13 government bills a year were being approved by the Ontario Legislature, and
Opposition Parties were boycotting the Rules Committee, when those 1992 changes were introduced; and



Whereas this government has been gaining approval for more legislation than the Cameron
Government did, and it rarely seeks all-Party discussion of any improvement to the rules;



Therefore be it resolved that the Liberals should not mistake their political distress due to public
accountability for arbitrary, unreasonable legislation with any true threat to the effective representation of all
Nova Scotians by this House.



MR. SPEAKER: The notice is tabled.



The honourable member for Colchester-Musquodoboit Valley.



RESOLUTION NO. 1552



MR. BROOKE TAYLOR: Mr. Speaker, I hereby give notice that on a future day I shall move the
adoption of the following resolution:



Whereas for the fourth time in just over a week, the Premier has been informed by Nova Scotia Liberals
that they want his leadership reviewed; and



Whereas the news from Liberals out of New Glasgow yesterday follows on the heels of news released
Friday that Nova Scotians have ranked the Premier as the least popular Leader in all of Canada; and



Whereas members of the Millbrook Indian Band have been waiting for months for a simple meeting
with the Premier to discuss economic development but are now tired and want him replaced as the Minister
responsible for Aboriginal Affairs;



Therefore be it resolved that if the Premier is going to insist on travelling to exotic locales such as
Cuba, Korea and Switzerland on a regular basis - he first deal with the concerns of Nova Scotians before
leaving on these foreign jaunts.



MR. SPEAKER: The notice is tabled.



The honourable member for Inverness.



RESOLUTION NO. 1553



MR. CHARLES MACARTHUR: Mr. Speaker, I hereby give notice that on a future day I shall move
the adoption of the following resolution:



Whereas during Pope John Paul’s visit to Australia last week he beatified the deceased nun Mother
Mary MacKillop, daughter of Scottish immigrants who settled in Australia in the 1800’s; and



Whereas during the same period a number of relatives of the venerated Mother Mary of the Cross
immigrated to various areas of Nova Scotia, many who still live in Inverness County; and



Whereas Mother Mary MacKillop devoted her life to the care and education of the poor and has been
proven that her intercession has led to at least two miracles and when the third miracle is verified she will
obtain sainthood;



Therefore be it resolved that all members of this House extend congratulations to all relatives of the
venerated Mother Mary MacKillop as we look forward to her elevation to sainthood.



Mr. Speaker, I ask for waiver of notice and passage without debate.



MR. SPEAKER: Is it agreed that notice be waived?



It is agreed.



Would all those in favour of the motion please say Aye. Contrary minded, Nay.



The motion is carried.



The honourable member for Hants West.



RESOLUTION NO. 1554



MR. RONALD RUSSELL: Mr. Speaker, I hereby give notice that on a future day I shall move the
adoption of the following resolution:



Whereas a public meeting was held at the Windsor Forks Elementary School on Thursday, January
19th to discuss an extension of the moratorium on uranium mining beyond January 31, 1995;



Whereas there was considerable discussion and examination of both positive and negative aspects of
uranium mining; and



Whereas approximately 100 persons in attendance, finally, unanimously concluded that the
moratorium on uranium mining should be extended for a further period of five years;



Therefore be it resolved that the Government of Nova Scotia, without delay, extend the present
moratorium on uranium mining until January 31, 2000.



Mr. Speaker, I would ask for waiver of notice.



MR. SPEAKER: There has been a request for waiver of notice. It requires unanimous consent.



Is there consent?



I hear several Noes.



The notice is tabled.



The honourable Leader of the New Democratic Party.



RESOLUTION NO. 1555

 

 

MR. JOHN HOLM: Mr. Speaker, I hereby give notice that on a future day I shall move the adoption
of the following resolution:



Whereas municipal councils have reported in recent weeks that they are unable to obtain accurate
information from this government about the police costs they are expected to assume on April 1st; and



Whereas the Warden of Chester stated that, “we have to find someone in the province to give us the
actual cost”, explaining that municipalities cannot consider their options until cost information is available;
and



Whereas municipalities are preparing their budgets right now and the agreed legislative timetable on
Bill No. 114 means uncertainty is no excuse for provincial inaction;



Therefore be it resolved that the Municipal Affairs Minister should concentrate her efforts on providing
the ready access to detailed information that is essential if the April 1st service exchange is to take place
without confusion and disruption.



MR. SPEAKER: The notice is tabled.



The honourable member for Kings North.



RESOLUTION NO. 1556



MR. GEORGE ARCHIBALD: Mr. Speaker, I hereby give notice that on a future day I shall move the
adoption of the following resolution:



Whereas the Minister of Health continues to keep the lives of Nova Scotians in chaos as they
desperately await word of a hospital bed being made available for them in a time of need; and



Whereas the most recent example that has come to light is that of a Kentville doctor who attempted
to get a bed for Clayton Taylor at the Victoria General Hospital in Halifax; and



Whereas the Kentville doctor was unable to secure a bed for Mr. Taylor until he had suffered his third
heart attack in the span of two weeks and was in critical need of triple by-pass heart surgery;



Therefore be it resolved that the Minister of Health make it abundantly clear to Nova Scotians today
that doctors will not have to consider sending patients to hospitals outside of Nova Scotia while waiting for
a hospital bed in our province.



MR. SPEAKER: The notice is tabled.



The honourable member for Halifax Fairview.






RESOLUTION NO. 1557



MS. ALEXA MCDONOUGH: Mr. Speaker, I hereby give notice that on a future day I shall move the
adoption of the following resolution:



Whereas the Health Minister has again announced plans for tough tobacco control after receiving fresh
evidence that deadly tobacco addiction is fast increasing among young Nova Scotians; and



Whereas this government also knows that young people are equally prone to gambling addiction and
in particular to the VLT slot machines which the Liberals are expanding and promoting as the predominant
form of gambling in Nova Scotia; and



Whereas similar announcements of tough gambling control have so far been followed by no action to
deter youth or illegal gambling;



Therefore be it resolved that this government could demonstrate its commitment to health care reform
by undertaking a comprehensive, preventive, anti-addiction policy to minimize the opportunities for youth
and others to become addicted to tobacco, gambling and drugs.



MR. SPEAKER: The notice is tabled.



The honourable member for Kings North.



RESOLUTION NO. 1558



MR. GEORGE ARCHIBALD: Mr. Speaker, I hereby give notice that on a future day I shall move the
adoption of the following resolution:



Whereas the Minister of Health’s priority is to entrap Nova Scotian store owners; and



Whereas the health care system in Nova Scotia is in disarray; and



Whereas the Minister of Health’s priority is to hire five cigarette inspectors of $500,000 per year;



Therefore be it resolved that the Minister of Health resign and his replacement get in touch with Nova
Scotians needing health care.



MR. SPEAKER: The notice is tabled.



The honourable Leader of the Opposition.



RESOLUTION NO. 1559



MR. TERENCE DONAHOE: Mr. Speaker, I hereby give notice that on a future day I shall move the
adoption of the following resolution:



Whereas the merger of four metro hospitals was announced in the summer of 1994; and



Whereas while the membership of the new Queen Elizabeth II board for the merged institutions was
filled within months of the announcement, the work of the board was delayed pending further instruction by
the Health Minister; and



Whereas there was further confusion when the new chairperson stepped down and the board awaited
a successor;



Therefore be it resolved that while the community awaits the board to be completely operational, the
Minister of Health offer answers to the questions that the health professionals and employees of the
institutions now governed by the QE II board have been asking since the announcement was made while the
Queen visited the city some six months ago.



MR. SPEAKER: The notice is tabled.



The honourable member for Colchester-Musquodoboit Valley.



RESOLUTION NO. 1560



MR. BROOKE TAYLOR: Mr. Speaker, I hereby give notice that on a future day I shall move the
adoption of the following resolution:



Whereas the Minister of Transportation has recently authorized his department to spend a considerable
amount of money on newspaper advertisements in an attempt to explain to Nova Scotians what they can do
if their road is not plowed following a storm; and



Whereas these advertisements list a variety of numbers that local residents can call if their road is not
plowed or unsafe following a storm; and



Whereas despite these newspaper advertisements, a prominent Liberal from Meagher’s Grant, Halifax
County, recently expressed his extreme displeasure over the fact that following a recent storm calls were made
to the number advertised for Halifax County in the minister’s ad to inquire about sanding, but was told no one
could help him because those in charge had left for the day;



Therefore be it resolved that if the minister insists on trying to make himself look good to the Nova
Scotia travelling public, he make every attempt to ensure that newspaper advertisements placed by him are
not misleading.



MR. SPEAKER: The notice is tabled.



The honourable member for Halifax Atlantic.



RESOLUTION NO. 1561



MR. ROBERT CHISHOLM: Mr. Speaker, I hereby give notice that on a future day I shall move the
adoption of the following resolution:



Whereas Liberal Government advertisements promised Nova Scotians a better, more secure future,
stating further that the opportunities in Nova Scotia are endless; and



Whereas such ads have appeared at the same time that nearly 600 people lined up for 75 14-week
poverty level winter works jobs in Sydney; and



Whereas even such opportunities are so limited that only a few dozen more short-term jobs have been
offered to the hundreds of unemployed Cape Bretoners desperate for work;



Therefore be it resolved that this House urges the government to divert funds from the empty promises
of advertising towards support for community-based efforts to provide real, reliable, secure jobs.



MR. SPEAKER: The notice is tabled.



The honourable member for Halifax Fairview.



RESOLUTION NO. 1562



MS. ALEXA MCDONOUGH: Mr. Speaker, I hereby give notice that on a future day I shall move the
adoption of the following resolution:



Whereas the Mayor of Sydney and former Liberal Leader, Vince MacLean, has declared that the ITT
Sheraton began negotiations to provide financial support to Centre 200 only on January 12th, while this House
was engaged in the wide-ranging debate of the title of Bill No. 120; and



Whereas if the mayor is to be believed, concrete benefits of detailed legislative scrutiny are indeed
evident; and



Whereas Windsor, Ontario officials have publicly warned that extra police and traffic costs should
clearly be the responsibility of any Vegas-style casino;



Therefore be it resolved that this House reaffirm the benefit to Nova Scotians of detailed, painstaking
legislative review, particularly of proposals that have not been the subject of public consultation or a local
approval process.



MR. SPEAKER: That resolution appears to me to duplicate the content of Bill No. 120, the Gaming
Control Act, now under debate in the Committee of the Whole House on Bills.



MS. ALEXA MCDONOUGH: Mr. Speaker, on a point of order. This resolution concerns the ITT
Sheraton deal which we have been expressly advised by the Chairman of the Committee of the Whole House
is not permitted to be debated, scrutinized, analyzed or discussed in the context of Bill No. 120 debate. For
that reason, I am rising on a point of order to frankly ask for reconsideration of your ruling this resolution out
of order. We can’t be faced with a situation where we are unable to address this matter either in debate or
through resolutions and questions and other means available to us.



MR. SPEAKER: Well, I was consulting with the Clerk during that point. The Clerk is of the view that
the resolution on close reading of its content - and I must say that I don’t have an opportunity to read any of
these resolutions in advance, I take them as they are submitted - but the resolution does appear to deal perhaps
more with matters not dealt with in the bill than with the bill.



Therefore, on weighing the resolution, it appears to be in order and is tabled.



Are there further notices of motions? Is there any additional business to come before the House under
the heading of the daily routine?



The honourable Government House Leader.



HON. RICHARD MANN: Mr. Speaker, would you please revert to the order of business, Presenting
Reports of Committees.



PRESENTING REPORTS OF COMMITTEES



MR. SPEAKER: The honourable member for Hants East.



MR. ROBERT CARRUTHERS: Mr. Speaker, as Chairman of the Committee on Private and Local
Bills, I am directed to report that the committee has met and considered the following bill:



Bill No. 142 - Halifax City Charter.



and that the committee recommends this bill to the favourable consideration of the House, with certain
amendments.



MR. SPEAKER: Ordered that this bill be referred to the Committee of the Whole House on Bills.



The honourable member for Hants East.



MR. ROBERT CARRUTHERS: Mr. Speaker, once again, as Chairman of the Committee on Private
and Local Bills, I am directed to report that the committee has met and considered the following bills:



Bill No. 143 - Halifax County Charter.



Bill No. 144 - Oak and Elm Grove Cemetery Company Act.



Bill No. 145 - Dartmouth City Charter.



and the committee recommends these bills to the favourable consideration of the House, without amendment.



I am also directed to report that the committee has also considered the following bill:



Bill No. 146 - West Hants Offices Change of Name Act.



but the committee is not reporting this bill back to the House and instead, has directed me to advise the
Minister of Municipal Affairs that the committee is recommending that the Minister of Municipal Affairs
discuss with the Union of Nova Scotia Municipalities the issue of legislation that would:



(a) change the name of the offices of warden and deputy warden of each municipality to mayor and
deputy mayor, respectively; and



(b) require that the holder of the office of warden or mayor, by whatever title that office is called, be
selected by election at large by the registered voters in the municipality.



MR. SPEAKER: Very well, the Committee Report is tabled and those bills that were reported are
ordered referred to the Committee of the Whole House on Bills.



The honourable member for Hants West.



MR. RONALD RUSSELL: Mr. Speaker, on a point of order and I suppose more a point of
clarification, with regard to reporting bills back from the Private and Local Bills Committee, it was my
understanding that the bill would be reported back to the Committee of the Whole House on Bills. As I
understand it that procedure is not being followed. (Interruption)



MR. SPEAKER: I am not sure either. I have ordered that the bills reported by the Committee on
Private and Local Bills be referred to the Committee of the Whole House on Bills, that is my order.



Are there any additional committee reports? We will then advance to Orders of the Day.

 

ORDERS OF THE DAY



GOVERNMENT BUSINESS

 

 

MR. SPEAKER: The honourable Government House Leader.



HON. RICHARD MANN: Mr. Speaker, I move that you do now leave the Chair and the House resolve
itself into a Committee of the Whole House on Bills.



MR. SPEAKER: The motion is carried.



[2:27 p.m. The House resolved itself into a CWH on Bills with Deputy Speaker Mr. Gerald O’Malley
in the Chair.]



[9:59 p.m. CWH on Bills rose and the House reconvened. Mr. Speaker, Hon. Paul MacEwan, resumed
the Chair.]



MR. SPEAKER: Order, please. The Chairman of the Committee of the Whole House on Bills reports:



THE CLERK: That the committee has met and made progress and begs leave to sit again.



MR. SPEAKER: The committee has met and begs leave to sit again.



Is it agreed?



It is agreed.



The honourable Government House Leader.



HON. RICHARD MANN: Mr. Speaker, we will be meeting tomorrow from the hours of noon until
8:00 p.m. The business following the daily routine and Question Period will be Committee of the Whole
House on Bills and we will be dealing with Bill No. 122, the Workers’ Compensation Act.



I move we adjourn until noon tomorrow.



MR. SPEAKER: The motion is that the House do now rise to meet again tomorrow at the hour of 12:00
noon.



The motion is carried.



[The House rose at 10:00 p.m.]



NOTICE OF MOTION UNDER RULE 32(3)



HOUSE ORDER NO. 185



By: Mr. Terence Donahoe (Halifax Citadel)



I hereby give notice that on a future day I shall move that an order of this House do issue for a return
showing, with respect to the Department of Justice:



(1) Terms of reference for the advisory committee outlined to undertake a comprehensive review
of the Freedom of Information Act;



(2) Date of the call to set up this committee; and



(3) Status of committee.